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Originally posted by Sunsnail I'm not sure if I can agree with you there. Breaking a law in general doesn't have anything to do with morality. There are some really stupid laws out there. A government can really make any laws it pleases, but it doesn't mean that they're moral etc.

yea, your right, didnt think of that.. let me edit those 3 words out.

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Originally posted by prolikewhoa i agree with this. i respect everyone's right to wait or to not wait, but neither decision makes you better than anyone else. it's a personal choice, and it shouldn't be paraded around as a public bandwagon. i know it's all in good fun, though, so i'm not gonna stress it. you virgins know i <3 ya (you know who you are).

i hope im loved

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Originally posted by prolikewhoa it's a personal choice,

Eh, in a sense. You see, I don't choose to be a virgin. My personally choices come as having to choose between waiting for the perfect person, or loose it to some wolf-ugly girl just as sex becuase anybody can do that. Well, I'll wait. I have never had to make a choice whether or not I should sleep with a girl. I've never been put in that kind of situation. And for that matter, I've never had a girlfriend. So being a virgin for me is rather self pity than pride, but I gladly take my self pity as pride.

God, I'm such a loser...

Who in this thread is religious? Does religion have something to people not getting their dick wet?

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Originally posted by OurManFlint Eh, in a sense. You see, I don't choose to be a virgin. My personally choices come as having to choose between waiting for the perfect person, or loose it to some wolf-ugly girl just as sex becuase anybody can do that. Well, I'll wait. I have never had to make a choice whether or not I should sleep with a girl. I've never been put in that kind of situation. And for that matter, I've never had a girlfriend. So being a virgin for me is rather self pity than pride, but I gladly take my self pity as pride. God, I'm such a loser...

agreed on many levels there man. I was in europe with a buddy and we were on the way back from a bar with some girls, and we met another girl, who was hot, and so he left us, and came back to our hostel in 2 hours. He went there, fucked her, came back, told us about it.

he also went after this 200 pound chick and had sex with her because she had big boobs.

There are lines.

2 consenting people...dunno hard one, but so many people are just bad about it, and they will admit they didnt even like the person, they just wanted to have sex with them...


I dunno...I just shake my head at a lot of people cuz wow...guys...wow

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Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk:: if u dont "need" to validate any of your convictions, then how much validity do u have when u state your convictions and dont know why u believe in those convictions. if u dont know why u believe something, then your beliefs are based on nothing but faith and faith doesnt cut it.

you missed his point, he thinks your convictions have wholes in them because you NEED to validate them with other people vs just trusting yourself.

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Originally posted by Orbax apparently,,,youre...MORE moral? or that morality is bs? I cant quite make the equation you are of "this is propaganda" therefore all virgins everywhere should go get fucked.

did I say I was MORE moral. Your the one who insinuates that keeping your virginity until your married is the moral high ground.

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Originally posted by Orbax Point of all this is that you seem offended by the fact some people are glad they dodged the bullet with some shitty relationships, yet look forward to a sexually active fulfilling one in the future.

I not offended that "some people are glad they dodged a bullet with some shitty relationships", but thats not what we were talking about. By all means avoid those bad relationships, but theres no harm in getting a quick fuck before you ditch them. You see the difference? Sex has nothing to do with love, it can cultivate it, but IT is not love.

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Originally posted by Orbax and I think youre the twisted fuck who would castigate a rape victim for not being a virgin. I never even THOUGHT of that.

your making alligations which shows that your backed into a corner here with your logic. There have been many debates about rape victim's and virginity, technically they aren't virgins are they? but I'm not one to really care.

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Originally posted by Xenocreator_PG_ Who in this thread is religious? Does religion have something to people not getting their dick wet?

rofl lots actually. Puritans? Im not arguing for abstinence, just thoughtful sex

but I know a lot of people who actually feel bad about wanting sex

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Originally posted by Orbax agreed on many levels there man. I was in europe with a buddy and we were on the way back from a bar with some girls, and we met another girl, who was hot, and so he left us, and came back to our hostel in 2 hours. He went there, fucked her, came back, told us about it. he also went after this 200 pound chick and had sex with her because she had big boobs. There are lines. 2 consenting people...dunno hard one, but so many people are just bad about it, and they will admit they didnt even like the person, they just wanted to have sex with them... I dunno...I just shake my head at a lot of people cuz wow...guys...wow

true, heh, but if they're beautiful why not eh? I've had a one night stand once with a girl... three weekends in a row. she was hot but not someone I wanted a relationship with, too ditsy.

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Originally posted by djmetatron you missed his point, he thinks your convictions have wholes in them because you NEED to validate them with other people vs just trusting yourself. did I say I was MORE moral. Your the one who insinuates that keeping your virginity until your married is the moral high ground. I not offended that "some people are glad they dodged a bullet with some shitty relationships", but thats not what we were talking about. By all means avoid those bad relationships, but theres no harm in getting a quick fuck before you ditch them. You see the difference? Sex has nothing to do with love, it can cultivate it, but IT is not love. your making alligations which shows that your backed into a corner here with your logic. There have been many debates about rape victim's and virginity, technically they aren't virgins are they? but I'm not one to really care.

I wouldnt say im backed into a corner here...I wasnt arguing whether or not they are virgins, I was talking about castigation. Youre the one claiming we are directing blame at others for it, and then you link rape victims implying we would blame them too..


wtf are you thinking? You have no fucking place here. Everyone on these boards but you knows im an alcoholic woman wrestler who gets in fights.

Im just a virgin too

jesus. i think youre a bad person to be calling people out for being on a high horse.

I kinda agree, this sig is kinda..

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Originally posted by Orbax I wouldnt say im backed into a corner here...I wasnt arguing whether or not they are virgins, I was talking about castigation. Youre the one claiming we are directing blame at others for it, and then you link rape victims implying we would blame them too..

No. I was showing the grey area of virginity. Virginity doesn't mean shit and thats what the sig was about. It looked pretty damn serious to me.