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Originally posted by RobbyG. Must have been one of those Hip Hop nites

Almost a given

the way bouncers treat people has absolutely nothing to do with this. A bouncer got shot and killed and did not do anything to deserve it. Yes i worked at guv at one time and even though i now work for the competition i will still never bash the place. In fact it takes quite a bit for me to bash any place actually. Im usually on the defensive when it comes to just about anywhere when people start up the whine fests.

ANd you did mean disrespect in that statement or else you wouldnt have said "f'in bouncer". The way i read it you almost took pleasure in the fact that he got shot.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Jayx1 ANd you did mean disrespect in that statement or else you wouldnt have said "f'in bouncer". The way i read it you almost took pleasure in the fact that he got shot.

NO sir it was just a generalization of the help at GUV, and I'm sure many others would be my wingmen on this topic!

Futhermore I do not wish death or harm upon anyone for any reason. That is just ludacris and insulting to me that you would propose it.

Cheers and have a great Weekend!

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There's so many arguments to be had for finding purpose behind the actions of mainstream cultures and sub-cultures.

I think we can basically agree on that ************ of the kind of music you listen to - there's a niche in society that you strive to be a part of, consciously or not. I don't think it's fair to say that hip-hop condones violence because as previously stated the roots of hip-hop are in equalization and concentrate their focus on bringing to mainstream attention problems that are 'taboo' or not dealt with as aggressively as ulterior issues.

What I do find discomforting is the 'gangsta rap' scene which glorifies violence and misogyny as not only acceptable but furthermore preferable in order to be an accepted member of said culture. To see children (10 and under) emulating the lyrics of Eminem and 50 Cent is downright disturbing, especially because for the most part they are not consciously aware of the message they are portraying, and moreso, the image they themselves hold of these 'artists' is usually confounded and downright misleading. When you translate this message into action - the result is often violent acts as witnessed Thursday night at System.

I'm not going to pretend to not be biased here. Obviously I appreciate the EDM scene a lot more than the aforementioned. I also; however, realize the stigmatization that comes with electronic music and drugs going hand in hand. Fair enough. In stark comparison at the very least; however, I would say:

1. I'm choosing to ingest the drug.
2. I'm not choosing to get shot/stabbed.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 im glad kids are into it at 11. Why? Because those kids will have grown out of it by the time they are 19. Not to mention the older kids will look at their kid siblings and cringe that they are into the same things they are. Its almost as effective as parents liking their kids music. LOL

I hope you're only thinking about the music... I warn my nieces and nephews that your brain never fully develops until you're around the age of 25, and to be careful experimenting with drugs. I was a late bloomer myself (25 when I did my first e). My 19 year old nephew has already been through the court system twice, once for drugs... He's throwing his life away... hasn't finished school, can't keep a job.

Makes me scared to have kids!

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In the end I honestly believe that the blame for any incident rests solely on the shoulders of the perpetrators. If anyone tries to argue that music influences 20+ year olds to do violence is just making excuses for how fucked up humanity is in general. People need to start owning up to their own shit. I don't care if you listen to gangsta rap or gospel music if you kill someone you kill someone end of story. To say one type of music or other is responsible is a cop out for the fact that people need to learn control or we simply need to not interfere with such environments and just let them all wipe eachother out.

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Blame the parents.

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- Blackness at WEMF 2007

That's just another excuse people need to blame the perpetrator and no one else. See how things work then.

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Upbringing has a lot to do with how you turn out no doubt. But that should not be legally considered once you are an adult. By then you should know better from right and wrong and if you dont then you are by legal definition, criminally insane.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced I am just waiting for the day when Irish Folk music becomes the main stream music.

can't wait for that. Step dancing for all