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Originally posted by Mr. Pink check this out i could rape 20 billion children kill 20 billion people stomp on newborn kittens and fart really loudly and before dying all i have to say is "sorry" oh, and i have to REALLY mean it REALLLLLLLLLY mean it.....and i can go to heaven. God rules

Not true. No one knows if you're going to heaven or hell.

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Originally posted by Mr. Pink check this out i could rape 20 billion children kill 20 billion people stomp on newborn kittens and fart really loudly and before dying all i have to say is "sorry" oh, and i have to REALLY mean it REALLLLLLLLLY mean it.....and i can go to heaven. God rules

Ok then try

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Originally posted by Mr. Pink check this out i could rape 20 billion children kill 20 billion people stomp on newborn kittens and fart really loudly and before dying all i have to say is "sorry" oh, and i have to REALLY meant it REALLLLLLLLLY meant it.....and i can go to heaven. God rules

Incorrect... no religion states that so long as you say sorry you're cool with the big guy. The term is REPENT, you must REPENT your sins. Which is to say you must a) confess them, b) atone for them, and c) refrain from committing them again.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Incorrect... no religion states that so long as you say sorry you're cool with the big guy. The term is REPENT, you must REPENT your sins. Which is to say you must a) confess them, b) atone for them, and c) refrain from committing them again.

well without me using the term..... you know what i mean.

so if you repent after doing ALL of that....

accept jesus into your heart and all that mumbo.
wouldnt you go to heaven according to whatever?

this is a question, FYI

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Better challenge.... find a passage in the bible that refers to "burning" in hell. This idea of burning and hell being made of fire and brimstone comes from Daunte's Inferno... "the pain shall be as if one's flesh were burning without end".... the bible makes no mention of fire, burning, or stone. The only thing the bible really says about hell is that it is outside of the sight and love of God.

Revelation refers to the eternal pit of fire, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, but there certainly isn't a reference to burning in hell. That's where, I assume, people get it from. Either way, that's the wrong concept to focus on. The bible focuses on God's love and forgiveness, not his punishment, especially in the New Testament (which is the new covenant).

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What really gets me is this new trend of bible bashing. It's just as irrational as the bible thumpers' undying desire to convert. Can there be no middle ground?

We as humans are small, piddly, insignificant. We are not all there is. I think it's an important value for us all the comprehend. There is a higher power. It's not all about us, us, us. Me, me, me. Mine, mine, mine. We don't have to realize this by means of organized religion.

I agree with Butterfly on all she's said.

Religion and Wars? Aren't wars merely a means of over-population prevention? Of redistribution?

My teacher told me this one day, I just about shat me panties.

Javi, always knowing how to press people's buttons.

Edit* Nevermind, I see your finally elaborating a bit!

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Originally posted by Mr. Pink well without me using the term..... you know what i mean. so if you repent after doing ALL of that.... accept jesus into your heart and all that mumbo. wouldnt you go to heaven according to whatever? this is a question, FYI

I cannot answer this with certainty as I am not the judge of such things.

Based on most christian churchs teachings yes you should be alright if you were to repent after all of that. The question one needs to ask is whether or not such acts can be repented. How does one atone for something so severe.... I mean really, 20 billion is a big blood debt to pay.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by Mr. Pink well without me using the term..... you know what i mean. so if you repent after doing ALL of that.... accept jesus into your heart and all that mumbo. wouldnt you go to heaven according to whatever? this is a question, FYI

Like I said.....

No one knows if they're going to heaven, because

A.It might not exist
B.We don't know if God wants you in
C.You're Going to hell

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard I cannot answer this with certainty as I am not the judge of such things. Based on most christian churchs teachings yes you should be alright if you were to repent after all of that. The question one needs to ask is whether or not such acts can be repented. How does one atone for something so severe.... I mean really, 20 billion is a big blood debt to pay.

so i was right

suckaazzzzzzz

i just didnt use the word repent.



and estella, im not elaborating

no one knows what i believe in

minus the fact that im not a satanist lol

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Originally posted by Mr. Pink well without me using the term..... you know what i mean. so if you repent after doing ALL of that.... accept jesus into your heart and all that mumbo. wouldnt you go to heaven according to whatever? this is a question, FYI

Depends what's in your heart. God can see through you, if you are just doing it to cover your ass.

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Originally posted by Slylee my f'n mother..i swear. ok she just found out that my uncle's wife is an athiest and she's freaking out because my little cousin (he's like 3) isn't going to have "God" in his life and she just went on and on about how it's "WRONG" and "he needs to be brought up with some sort of belief system BLA BLA BLA BLA" which, i'm not saying i disagree with, but it's NOT HER KID, it's her nephew, and it's my UNCLE'S job to try to work something out with HIS WIFE and HIS SON... i mean am i right or am i right? god, she fucking thinks everyone in the world has to see things her way or they're wrong.

I agree that the parent has the right to raise their children in whichever way they think is best for the children. And that's pretty universal.

What I do have a problem with is parents teaching their children about religion at that early of an age before they can truly understand it's concepts. This is especially true for many Western religions where many subjects are addressed in absolutes. An educated responsible parent should recognize she doesn't have all the answers and neither do a single religion. What a parent can do it instill into her child the search for universal truth and trust that the child, as he develops, will pick a belief system best for him.