There just seems to be far less crowd interaction when using Ableton/computers. I have no problems whatsoever with human error and limitations so I don’t really see the need for all the extra technology.

Seriously, why shouldn’t promoters just pay for someone to pre-record ‘perfect’ sets for events if it’s only about the music? Would sure help keep ticket prices down. We'd all be happy then hey? Smoothest mixing possible, lots of party tricks to the music, us all dancing to a computer...

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Originally posted by queen_vee There just seems to be far less crowd interaction when using Ableton/computers. I have no problems whatsoever with human error and limitations so I don’t really see the need for all the extra technology. Seriously, why shouldn’t promoters just pay for someone to pre-record ‘perfect’ sets for events if it’s only about the music? Would sure help keep ticket prices down. We'd all be happy then hey? Smoothest mixing possible, lots of party tricks to the music, us all dancing to a computer...

Once the djs playing with ableton get over the learning curve they will be interacting more with the crowd bu there's also the reality of the fact that they are actually working much harder ( time wise ) on doing a set with ableton then with decks. With decks press play beatmatch fade repeat while with ableton you have to work at it a little more then just that; that is if you're putting any real effort into it ( same applies to mixing with vinyl too ).

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Originally posted by WojiePoj there trying too hard to make everything mix perfectly......

which is a bad thing because....??

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Originally posted by ZuLi which is a bad thing because....??

Don't you know that everyone loves horse racing, side stepping, puddle jumping aka beat wreaking!

I'll not enter in this discussion, but...

I prefer a dj using ableton and mixing perfectly than hear a dj trainwrecking with vinil and decks.. it's all about the incoming sounds...

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Originally posted by PlasticSoul I'll not enter in this discussion, but... I prefer a dj using ableton and mixing perfectly than hear a dj trainwrecking with vinil and decks.. it's all about the incoming sounds...

correct me if Im mistaken but didnt PVD fuck up while using ableton at a recent event?It was broacasted here on TA and alot of people noticed it, forgot the name though. But yeah using it is no sure thing then...

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Originally posted by Eddie N MIAMI correct me if Im mistaken but didnt PVD fuck up while using ableton at a recent event?It was broacasted here on TA and alot of people noticed it, forgot the name though. But yeah using it is no sure thing then...

pvd uses serato scratch does he not? still involves beatmatching with vinyl

but yeah was at global gathering on radio1's essential mix, i think he dragged the next track onto the channel that was playing by mistake, instead of the other one.. schoolboy error if that was the case

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Originally posted by WojiePoj k....1) Your Gay 2) Thread Is still open cuz thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard wanna be creative...shut off thats a lame excuse for djs who are afraid to fuck up....and 3)if your gunna make a comment like that change your display pics of the stick man on the Ones-and-Twos cuz that doesnt help your statement...idiot get off this thread

do you think beat matching is hard or something? beat matching does not take skill. there is more to djing that beat matching, get over it!

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Originally posted by Mike_Foyle beat matching does not take skill.

Course it does. Just like making an omelette takes skill. Not everyone can make an omelette, and then some people's will taste better than others.

But yeah, everyone can learn to make some kind of omelette...

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Originally posted by armandzadza When you read a document, does it matter to you if it was prepared on a word-processor or a type-writer?

I think this analogy would be more relevant for a pre-recorded CD. Some people actually enjoy watching DJs perform as well as the crowd interaction.

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Originally posted by jdat Once the djs playing with ableton get over the learning curve they will be interacting more with the crowd bu there's also the reality of the fact that they are actually working much harder ( time wise ) on doing a set with ableton then with decks. With decks press play beatmatch fade repeat while with ableton you have to work at it a little more then just that; that is if you're putting any real effort into it ( same applies to mixing with vinyl too ).

You know, this comment might have made since if you had just left out the last part in the parenthesis.

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Originally posted by Fundamental Course it does. Just like making an omelette takes skill. Not everyone can make an omelette, and then some people's will taste better than others. But yeah, everyone can learn to make some kind of omelette...

lol i like ur omelette theory. but making an omelette doesnt take skill really, or very little, it just takes knowledge. beatmatching of course takes a bit of skill but really not much :/

i hate it when people bitch and whine about ableton and such like as if beatmatching is the only thing that seperates a good dj from a bad one.

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