well, i think the age thing just goes down to maturity. you may be a very mature kid, but 16 is young, you are impressionable. that is a fact, it doesn't make you bad, but you should think a little more before you speak. freedom of speech is great, you still need to think before you speak.

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Originally posted by Nou Well that explains alot.

whatd does it explain?

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Originally posted by Octanesyco Greetings. My name is Casey. You can call me Moose. -Moose

it's dedicated to whoever wants it.

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Originally posted by plaxx Well, this thread turned out to be pretty eventful. Good discussion. P.S. Why does age matter in this discussion?

the only reason i brought it up was to point out the obvious...


you, same as the rest of us, are sitting at home and basing everything you feel on the issue off of your own personal situation.

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Originally posted by ghille it's dedicated to whoever wants it.

i get my info from everywhere really. WOuldnt rely on one source or wbesite. ITs very naive and boring to just keep it to one!


the ole PDD forum is always a great source of info aswell!

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Originally posted by ghille ok, now what I want to know is where do you get your info? I mean do you know iraqis? or are you just listening to the dribble on tv?

As you know, muslims, either sunni or shia attend mosques. The mosque I go to has a lot of regular people who are from Iraq and still have relatives there. The head of the mosque does a great job keeping everyone well informed with whats goin on in Iraq through the stories that the Iraqi people who attend the most.

ok, well tell us some stories from iraq then. I am curious to hear what is being said.

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Originally posted by Lepanto I have alot of muslim friends from turkey and albania and montenegro and i don't hate them for 9/11 or whatever.

Most of the Muslims in Albania arent really muslims, they just say they are because of what happend with the Ottomans years ago, but they never practice the religion at all, maybe 5 % does, the rest grow out to live a Christian way of life, and now in the presednt days things are different. And plus Albania sent troops to Iraq and Afganistan. Montengero is the same aswell. Turkey, now they are muslims but are very modern, they arent like Muslims from the middle east where killing westeners is the way to heaven. Now not all of them are like this. The congressman made a stupid comment, i dont think president Bush would ever do that, or any other president, America isnt in war to kill muslims, they are in war to kill terrorist and make these muslims countries more modern so they dont have to produce more terrorist that are againts western ideas and humanity.

Ive always been pro the war in Iraq and will always be, and im dont hate Bush, i think they are doing a hard job and i support it, and i support the soldiers everywhere. Why the hell does everyone want to get out of Iraq? or do you guys want to fight the war in the States?

well, I'm off. take care all.

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Originally posted by plaxx The head of the mosque does a great job keeping everyone well informed with whats goin on in Iraq

Dude don't get me wrong here, but all the evil that comes from the muslim side is because of these men (i'm not saying all of them, but more than half). How can a person who lives on the other side of the globe know more about whats going on over there than you and your satellite, tv? Like he can't transport himself over there and back does he???

The essential part of being a muslim is to live your life honest, show others whats right, give to the poor, be a listening ear. Just be a harmfull good human being and pass it on. So earth and religion can carry on.

So the conclusion is only you yourself can show what's right or not. It's inside of you and the Islam is only a guide to help you get it out of you.

However you can't force someone else to do what's right it has to come from inside.

And this forcing is exactly what these goofy brainwashed terrorist are doing. Using Islam as an excuse

P.S. My parents are from Turkey and both Islamic I have been born and raised in Holland.
So don't say I DON"T know what I'm talking about.

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Originally posted by Creamfields23 (i'm not saying all of them, but more than half.) Just be a harmfull good human being and pass it on. So earth and religion can carry on.

You hit the Nail Right on the Head.