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jon jon
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Magnetonium
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Port Burwell, Ontario, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
No offense, but that statement very debatable (most historians would disagree with you completely).

America's entrance into the European theater of WWII was most significant (and some argue only significant) reason the tides turned against the Germans (allowing the allied forces to win the war).


Oh really? Here's a quote from the history book I own about World War II:

quote:

Between 1941 and 1943, the Wehrmacht destroyed almost a third of 570 Soviet rifle divisions. The Red Army finally destroyed, disabled or captured 607 Axis divisions, at great cost to itself in men and machines: 96,500 tanks, 106,400 aircraft and 317,000 guns. Anglo-American armies fighting in North Africa, Italy and Western Europe destroyed 176 enemy divisions [including Italian]


American and British entrance in the war is late and ridiculous. You know why they entered so late? Because they didnt want the Soviet Union to "liberate" the entire Europe because it will be communist. When Stalin asked Roosevelt and Churchill in Tehran in 1942 to enter the war, western "allies" cited a lack of preparedness to enter the war. In 1944 when Soviets armies were well on their way to catch up with retreating German armies, FINALLY allies landed, fighting SCARSE German resistance.

You check it out yourself. You'll find this information to be true.

I am actually anti-communist and I hated the Soviets because they in the end ruined my motherland. Communists were terrorists (yes, they were when they assassinated Alexander II in 1881 by using a bomb in a terrorist attack) who killed millions of people and Stalin himself was as worse as Hitler, and both looked up to each other as great adversaries.

I am hoping Russia will regain its pre-1914 greatness and another great leader like Alexander II can come by and make Russia great. love my Russia.


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Old Post Dec-18-2005 17:27  Canada
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Mag1k
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Registered: Sep 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
No offense, but that statement very debatable (most historians would disagree with you completely).

America's entrance into the European theater of WWII was THE most significant (and some argue only significant) reason the tides turned against the Germans (allowing the allied forces to win the war).

Until the USA become involved in Europe - Germany clearly had the upper hand in Europe with no end in sight.

Do not get me wrong, I'm not saying Russia didn't do anything...



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Old Post Dec-18-2005 17:27  Russia
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Magnetonium
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Registered: Sep 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Until the USA become involved in Europe - Germany clearly had the upper hand in Europe with no end in sight.




Hmmm /// You say that Germans HAD THE UPPER HAND before D-DAY in 1944?

If they did, then why were the Soviet armies were pursuing RETREATING German armies into Poland, wwestern Ukraine, Romania - after already liberating most of Soviet Union itself?

Fact: January 6, 1944 - Soviet armies enter Poland (which is right beside Germany).

Google it. Google front lines and dates of World War II. Americans entered Europe because they were afraid of communists, and wanted to prevent them from liberating entire Europe.


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*~LiSa-LoO~*
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lol, why did i imagine RJ sayin' that in a fat albert impression


for the same reason I did!! Haha


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StereoPrincess
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Registered: May 2001
Location: SPFRI

ha ha

what happened here.

you people have to stop rushing.

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StereoPrincess
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Registered: May 2001
Location: SPFRI

quote:
Originally posted by Magnetonium


You should thank Russian/Soviet forces for liberating your Poland or today the whole Europe would be speaking in German and all Jews, Slavs, gypsies and other minorities WOULD NOT EXIST because Nazis had these plans, as seen in Holocast.

You should be thankful to Russia that Soviet Russia lost 28 million its own people (of 60 million total dead in WW2 by ALL coutries) to protect your own heritage and country. And it was Soviet Union that defeated the Nazis,if it wasnt for them western powers would not be able to stop Nazis (as a matter of a fact, Germans lost 700-something divisions in the east, while ALL OF WESTERN ALLIES only destroyed 100-plus German divisions)

You should be thankful to Russia because when East Prussia was incoporated into Soviet Union, Poland received 3/4 of it, making up 1/4 of Poland's territoty today.


I am sorry but the only reason that Russia got involved was to get a chunk of the land. Of course Polish people were proud. Who wouldn't be. "We are Russia, we will save you from those pesky Germans but you all have to become Russian." Thanks but no thanks.

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Cosmic Fur
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Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Mississauga, Canada

Goddamn it. Here we were, quietly discussing our own Russian thangs, not bothering anybody, but the Poles and the Americans had to get involved and send this thread barelling downhill faster than a fat man tumbling down the stairs.

Otsuyda budem govorit' tolko po Russki chtobu eti idiotu ne vstrevali zdes'.


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Sasha
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Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Doll-Dagga Buzz-Buzz Ziggety Zag

quote:
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Easily. Many people who's families are from Russian area pre-USSR do not consider themselves Soviets - they consider themselves RUSSIANS.

You said this thread was for Soviets only.


and I have to agree


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Sasha
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Registered: Jun 2005
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jokes!
i heart ppl. I dont care what nationality they are!


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stren
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no point in discussing history here. We all know we had a difficult one


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Sasha
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some hot material

thank you, Andrew!


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