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Originally posted by King Ecnal and remains to be the only reason other than the Pats and Peyton Manning to watch the NFL!!!

i agreed with you on everything up until that.....

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lol... understood...

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TO is a selfish piece of crap and I hate that bastard! His mocking antics of other teams and his own teammates is so disrespectful it's the last thing I look for in player that I like. Sorry, I'm for guys like Isaac Bruce, Torry Holt, Marvin Harrison, Barry Sanders, etc. that are superstars but still class acts. The only exception is Chad Johnson and his showboating but that's because he doesn't show up anybody on the field. He's just funny.

TO is a cancer to any team he plays for. Yeah the Eagles got the Super Bowl but they made the NFC championship the previous 3 years so it's not like it was a stretch. And to say that this year collapse wasn't the result of that cancer than I don't know what is.

Respect his talent, disrespect the person and the cancer he brings to every team he'll play for.

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I love Torry Holt as well.

Back to TO though,
Its not the endzone celebrations - which aren't nearly as big a deal as the press builds them up to be, or the discord he brings to the locker room ~ I just hate TO for how he treats his teammates on camera. Like Dirk Novitski (sp?) for Dallas, any player that goes public and insults or brings down another player on his team is the worst kind of teammate. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo!

I don't think TO is more of an asset thana liability. Yes the Eagles made the Super Bowl run with him but he was hurt for a good portion of that time and the Eagles won 2 playoff games without him (along with several regular season games).

Not to take away from TO the player but his antics and his trash talk attract more attention than his preformances.

In other news, The Colts just signed Adam Vinateri. I guess theyre still tasting last years bitter exit to the Steelers....

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Originally posted by tribu In other news, The Colts just signed Adam Vinateri. I guess theyre still tasting last years bitter exit to the Steelers....

There was also that whole thing between Vanderjagt and Manning a few years back, with the kicker saying how unhappy he was that Manning always loses the big games or something to that end...

"fate it seems, is not without a sense of irony"

Best Kicker of all-time is in Indy... good luck to him...

although I would have rather seen him in Green Bay... he'll always be the MAN...

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I am assuming that the reason the Pats are letting all these people walk is so that they can sign Branch and more importantly Richard Seymour to extensions,Seymour especially deserves the money..jhis stats do not tell you how important he is to that defense

adding on to seymour is also tedy Bruschi (hopefully he is ok .. probably not) and mike vrabel. the pats let go of many people on defense . i think the pats also resigned asante samuel, who really has stepped up the past couple of years .

as for the colts, i wouldn't be surprised if vanderjagt and vinateri are both on the colts next year . vanderjagt would do kickoffs, and vinateri would do field goals . i still say the colts are going to go nowhere next year, especially with now dominick rhodes behind peyton.

peyton will now know how it feels like to be his dad. always running from the defense.

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Originally posted by LeopoldStotch i still say the colts are going to go nowhere next year, especially with now dominick rhodes behind peyton. peyton will now know how it feels like to be his dad. always running from the defense.

I don't know Rhodes is pretty good as well, he did a nice job filling in when Edge was hurt. and do they still have Mungro? , cause if they do they're solid at the RB spot.

Plus their defense has been improving every year, so I don't see how they can really go backwards, if anything, they'll just be hungrier every year they don't win a superbowl. This squad is too talented to give up.

And if thats not the case their division is still shit awful.

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Originally posted by LeopoldStotch i wouldn't be surprised if vanderjagt and vinateri are both on the colts next year . vanderjagt would do kickoffs, and vinateri would do field goals .

that makes absolutely no sense.

why would they hold on to two kickers of that calibre!?

if the colts picked up vinateri, they should either release of trade vanderjagt to free up space under the cap, or try to trade up in the draft to get a chance at a decent runningback in the first round.

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Originally posted by SlackerBoy9 I am assuming that the reason the Pats are letting all these people walk is so that they can sign Branch and more importantly Richard Seymour to extensions,Seymour especially deserves the money..jhis stats do not tell you how important he is to that defense

yup, the only idiots around here who are bitching that Adam is gone are the people that don't realize the Pats NEED Seymour, if we lose(can't re-sign him next year) Seymour, we're in trouble!!!

but I don't quite understand why the Pats are even having Vanderjagt in town in the next couple of days... I can't see them signing him... I see a kicker no one knows anything about or some fossil kicking for them this year...

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