Lira;

Your points are well taken, very well. I too initially cringed when I saw that he'd been banned...but only for a split-second.

Then I thought about just who he was and what he was peddling, and frankly, he's a one-trick pony pushing a HUGE insult on the victims and survivors of the 9-11 tragedy (of which everyone in this country is a "survivor" in some way or another...it has affected us all).

Does anyone with half a brain here really think he was contributing anything worthy of debate in a Political Forum? His garbage was SO FAR off the scale in terms of being even remotely legitimate, that it wouldn't be any different if a spammer had come in here to try and sell us square tires, or blue bananas. It was pointless and baseless crap. In the end, I think HE was the ULTIMATE spammer.

Now, freedom of speech is one thing (of which, we really can't claim that right on a private message board...they can ban whomever they see fit, there are no real laws here except the ones laid down by the Mod and the board's owner), but let me ask you this; What does society do with it's clinically insane people? Does it turn a blind eye and let them wander about our lives, ruining and disrupting them, all in the name of "freedom"?

Maybe I and people like Tiesto14 take this more personally because it happened in our country, but either way, I found Sol G.'s diatribe to be tiresome and frankly, ruiness to the board's future. Like I said before, this board was going from being a place where you could learn something and have some worth-while debates, to being a place where only Internet whack-jobs from around the world could congregate to feed on each other's paranoia and fairy-tales. Trancer X and his ilk were attracting other whack-jobs in here with his insulting and lunatic posts about 9-11 conspiracies. I've seen crazy people infect other boards (though not exactly in this way, but not too far off either), and while you can theorize all day long about where to draw the line, like it or not, it has to be drawn somewhere for the good of the others.

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Originally posted by jonSun Yes solgrabber was making claims with no basis other than a movie he was begging people to watch, but i have seen others raise questions & no answers have come. Just more flames.

Oh for the love of god.

See; This is exactly what I'm talking about. These people are EVERYWHERE in here now thanks to people like Sol G. and Trancer...they are a virus.

Look, read the article linked in this thread, it will answer questions...then please GO AWAY!

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=345893

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Originally posted by donnybrasco Oh for the love of god. See; This is exactly what I'm talking about. These people are EVERYWHERE in here now thanks to people like Sol G....they are a virus. Look, read the article linked in this thread, it will answer questions...then please GO AWAY! http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=345893

Wow, I never argued the twin towers or the Pentagon. I didnt even mention that article dipshit. So why are you linking that thread.?

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Look, if you're going to use personal attacks and words like "dipshit", I'm going to talk to you in the same manner;

YOU'RE the f-ing RETARD who posted this statement;

"...but i have seen others raise questions & no answers have come."

WTF is that supposed to mean? Questions about 9-11 and the "official story", right?

THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS ABOUT 9-11 DUMMY!

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Originally posted by donnybrasco Look, if you're going to use personal attacks and words like "dipdhit", I'm going to talk to you in the same manner; YOU'RE the f-ing RETARD who posted this statement; "...but i have seen others raise questions & no answers have come." WTF is that supposed to mean? Questions about 9-11 and the "official story", right? THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS ABOUT 9-11 DUMMY!

According to the 9/11 commision report there still is questions. And building 7 is my question. According to the buildings owner & the NYPD it was brought down deliberately. Im just curious of how & when the planning was done. Deliberately bringing down a building that size takes alot of planning.

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Originally posted by jonSun According to the 9/11 commision report there still is questions. And building 7 is my question. According to the buildings owner & the NYPD it was brought down deliberately. Im just curious of how & when the planning was done. Deliberately bringing down a building that size takes alot of planning.

How dare you talk about the U.S government like that?this government loves the American people and would never harm anyone!!!I mean look how well they treated the people from Katrina.

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Originally posted by jonSun According to the 9/11 commision report there still is questions. And building 7 is my question. According to the buildings owner & the NYPD it was brought down deliberately. Im just curious of how & when the planning was done. Deliberately bringing down a building that size takes alot of planning.

So you have NO QUESTIONS about the Towers OR the Pentagon...BUT...you think building 7 looks suspicious??

That's pure genius right there.

So what; The U.S. Government saw a chance to add a little more to the carnage of an already horrible day???? And for what? What would blowing up Building 7 accomplish that all the other attacks throughout the day hadn't?

Do you see how DUMB that concept is?!?!?


Lira and the others;

This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about when I say that this board is sliding. I have been on a few other boards over the years and NEVER have I heard this conspiracy garbage anywhere else but HERE!

You can ignore these freaks in the name of supposed free speech if you want to...or you can weed them out and have a decent community worthy of your time.

Your choice.

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Originally posted by donnybrasco So what; The U.S. Government saw a chance to add a little more to the carnage of an already horrible day???? And for what? What would blowing up Building 7 accomplish that all the other attacks throughout the day hadn't?

From what i posted.. ya thats exactly what i meant I never said i didnt have questions on the twin towers or the pentagon. I just have alot of questions on building 7 & thats what my questions of focus are on ATM. Im not gonna dive in some conspiracy & assume the whole thing was set up by the govt until my questions on building 7 are or are not answered. So far nothings answered them, including the 9/11 commision report.

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What possible questions could you have other than pure Architecture or Design questions? Because it's OBVIOUS that the building came down as a result of having large parts of it's sister buildings crashing through it.

Other than "how exactly did the eventual collapse happen as a result of this damage?", what other possible questions could there be? Nothing that is going to change what 9-11 was all about, that's for sure.

So why worry about the semantics of engineering? We're not debating that here. The larger question of "who did this?" can only have ONE LOGICAL answer; Al Qaeda!

End of story!

Nothing more to debate!

Move on already!

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Originally posted by donnybrasco What possible questions could you have other than pure Architecture or Design questions? Because it's OBVIOUS that the building came down as a result of having large parts of it's sister buildings crashing through it. Other than "how exactly did the eventual collapse happen as a result of this damage?", what other possible questions could there be? Nothing that is going to change what 9-11 was all about, that's for sure. So why worry about the semantics of engineering? We're not debating that here. The larger question of "who did this?" can only have ONE LOGICAL answer; Al Qaeda! End of story! Nothing more to debate! Move on already!

Well from the buildings owner & the NYPD, the building was brought down by controlled demolition. So like i stated b4, im curious on how & when it was done.

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Go read the Popular Mechanics link I posted about. This topic is covered on page 5.

Just for fun, show me in writing where the buildings owner and NYPD said that 7 was brought down on purpose.