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Marc Summers
I must behave



Registered: Jan 2005
Location: New York, USA

I get so pissed off at conspiracy theories as obsurd as this. These theorists have the worst case of denial I've ever seen. They don't want to believe that our country's barn door was left wide open. So they make up these wild conspiracies that make our country look strong and in control. Let's face the facts:

Our own ignorance (The public as well as the government) left our country at risk. Any normal person (Including myself) had no idea who Osama Bin Laden or what Al-Qaeda was before the 9/11 attacks. We dismissed the '93 bombings of the WTC and we payed dearly for it. Those people on the planes were mostly business-people going on business trips. They were worrying about whether or not they were going to make the next big deal, rather than being hijacked by terrorists. We missed the chance to kill Bin Laden when Clinton was in office, and we ignored intelligence when Bush was fresh, and 2-months in.

We messed up, our country isn't as strong and in-control as you think. We can get attacked on our own soil by 19 men. We can lose a war in Vietnam, and we can certainly lose a war in Iraq.

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dcougar99
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Registered: May 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by Marc Summers
I get so pissed off at conspiracy theories as obsurd as this. These theorists have the worst case of denial I've ever seen. They don't want to believe that our country's barn door was left wide open. So they make up these wild conspiracies that make our country look strong and in control. Let's face the facts:

Our own ignorance (The public as well as the government) left our country at risk. Any normal person (Including myself) had no idea who Osama Bin Laden or what Al-Qaeda was before the 9/11 attacks. We dismissed the '93 bombings of the WTC and we payed dearly for it. Those people on the planes were mostly business-people going on business trips. They were worrying about whether or not they were going to make the next big deal, rather than being hijacked by terrorists. We missed the chance to kill Bin Laden when Clinton was in office, and we ignored intelligence when Bush was fresh, and 2-months in.

We messed up, our country isn't as strong and in-control as you think. We can get attacked on our own soil by 19 men. We can lose a war in Vietnam, and we can certainly lose a war in Iraq.



their is no reason to get pissed off at people who use freedom to ask questions about why things dont add up, its called being patriotic. Ignorance is the reason for the downfall of this country... (good example is the post above)

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Marc Summers
I must behave



Registered: Jan 2005
Location: New York, USA

quote:
Originally posted by dcougar99
their is no reason to get pissed off at people who use freedom to ask questions about why things dont add up, its called being patriotic. Ignorance is the reason for the downfall of this country... (good example is the post above)


No points were made. You just accused me of being ignorant. You lose. I see this alot nowadays with the theorists. They don't back up their claims.

See, the thing I like about what really happened on 9/11 (A fanatical muslim group attacked the United states because of our intrusion and influence in the arab world, and our support of Israel, among other ethical and moral issues that conflict with interpreted muslim law.), is that it can be explained by science (By independents, not just the government), politics and history.

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dcougar99
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quote:
Originally posted by Marc Summers
No points were made. You just accused me of being ignorant. You lose. I see this alot nowaday with the theorists. They don't back up their claims.

See, the thing I like about what really happened on 9/11 (A fanatical muslim group attacked the United states because of our intrusion and influence in the arab world, and our support of Israel, among other ethical and moral issues that conflict with interpreted muslim law.), is that it can be explained by science (By independents, not just the government), politics and history.



uhhhh ok then... explain building 7 to us all... you may also want to inform the 911 commission.

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flavdave
The Quiet Beatle



Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Richmond/Blacksburg, VA

I'm posting this link again because it seems our little conspiracy theorist friends must have missed it. (What a coincidence!)

http://www.911myths.com/index.html

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Marc Summers
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Registered: Jan 2005
Location: New York, USA

quote:
Originally posted by flavdave
I'm posting this link again because it seems our little conspiracy theorist friends must have missed it. (What a coincidence!)

http://www.911myths.com/index.html


Very nice.

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Aureus
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Registered: Sep 2005
Location: Culver City, CA

quote:
Originally posted by flavdave
I'm posting this link again because it seems our little conspiracy theorist friends must have missed it. (What a coincidence!)

http://www.911myths.com/index.html


yes, now there's a viable source... one that can't even correctly spell 'bin Laden' (see bottom of page).

you lose. insert one credit to continue


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that is quite possibly the coolest fucking thing i have heard in my entire life

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Aureus
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Location: Culver City, CA

quote:
Originally posted by Marc Summers
No points were made. You just accused me of being ignorant. You lose. I see this alot nowadays with the theorists. They don't back up their claims.

See, the thing I like about what really happened on 9/11 (A fanatical muslim group attacked the United states because of our intrusion and influence in the arab world, and our support of Israel, among other ethical and moral issues that conflict with interpreted muslim law.), is that it can be explained by science (By independents, not just the government), politics and history.


you are in high school, and thus, a naïve little boy

you have much to learn about how, and why, the media spins things the way it does (i.e. your description of how/why 9/11 occurred).

quote:
is that it can be explained by science

yeah... that's pretty much all this film deals with

next?


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Aquarian
king of no pants



Registered: May 2005
Location: Laval, Quebec

quote:
Originally posted by Aureus
yes, now there's a viable source... one that can't even correctly spell 'bin Laden' (see bottom of page).


There are numerous different 'western' spellings of his name. The popular one being no more accurate.

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Aureus
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Registered: Sep 2005
Location: Culver City, CA

quote:
Originally posted by Aquarian
There are numerous different 'western' spellings of his name. The popular one being no more accurate.


who cares. he didn't mastermind the attacks, anyways.

quote:
Originally posted by Aureus
this isn't a political thread, just a decent American trying to steer people who aren't aware of the wool over their eyes in the right direction. in other words; if you have a problem with theis video STFU you're IGNORANT


next?


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that is quite possibly the coolest fucking thing i have heard in my entire life

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Aquarian
king of no pants



Registered: May 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by Aureus
who cares. he didn't mastermind the attacks, anyways.


next?


So in other words, you have no argument and you're trying to change subject?

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jonSun
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Chicago CTA #77

quote:
Originally posted by flavdave
I'm posting this link again because it seems our little conspiracy theorist friends must have missed it. (What a coincidence!)

http://www.911myths.com/index.html


Cool thanks. Looks pretty indebt too. Gonna check it out & see what i can gather.


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