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Originally posted by gizzymcg Now as usual you are talking mince. Sail is basically a rehashing of Gaia - 4 elements. What is that not a "proper" trance tune either? You are right about Armin producing some cheese such as Shivers but Sail is far from it.

armin copying himself anno 2000. and the results isn't even decent. whats the point of releasing it then?

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Originally posted by RebeL9 a couple of years ago I could waste my entire salary on trance records simply because of the amount of good and worth-having-releases.

How can you say there are not people doing that today? How can you say that what dosent catch your attention; is pretty much shit for everyone else? Isnt this elitism?

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Originally posted by Neo95gt I'd love to hear what the haters listen to...

Trance. Artists which range from Ticon, Vibrasphere, Oliver Lieb, Miika Kuisma, Son Kite, Tegma, John 00 Fleming, Chris Micali, Freq, Antix. Older stuff from Ferry, Armin, Tiesto, PvD.

Techno. Valentino Kanzyani, Umek, Joris Voorn, Alexander Kowalski, Adam Beyer.

Psychedelic. Orion, Wizzy Noise, X-Dream, Wrecked Machines, Xerox & Illumination

Hardcore - Luna-C, Rob Vanden, Sharkey, Ophidian, Druid

Old Skool. Top Buzz, Slipmatt, Carl Cox, Altern8, Prodigy, Ratpack

and plenty more. That's not 'elitism' it's just variation.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 lol are you for real?

uhhh yeah dude. There are the classics of course, but most of the shit just sounds straight up silly.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 armin copying himself anno 2000. and the results isn't even decent. whats the point of releasing it then?

I wasnt saying it was right or wrong. I simply asked you why you thought it was a track conparable to Shivers which its not.

You are one of the most negative and deconstructive commentors on here about mainstream "club" trance. Look the music you listen to just doesnt work for people who want to go to clubs and enjoy "normal" trance. Stop trying to "educate" people in your way. There is such a thing as a difference in opinion and i persoanlly dont reckon Armin gives a monkeys what you think.

I would love to have Armin circa 2002 back but things are simply very different now. A lot of times you simply slate one of the big name trance DJ's just to cope a reaction out of people.

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Originally posted by Purple How can you say there are not people doing that today? How can you say that what dosent catch your attention; is pretty much shit for everyone else? Isnt this elitism?

of course people are doing that today as well. people are buying every new britney spears album released as well. what I'm saying is that there is a clear trend which alot of producers themself agree with (Gareth Emery, J00F, PVD etc) that there is lack of new ideas in the scene today which is reproduced in the songs released today.
as I wrote in the other thread; one of the main reasons for this is that there are numerous new mp3 labels which headhunts every new bedroom producer which produce tracks on his computer off a downloaded copy of Reason. the market gets flooded which affects the quality of the tunes.
I honestly don't blame Armin. There simply aren't as many fresch and cool tunes as 5 years ago.

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Originally posted by Ian Trance. Artists which range from Ticon, Vibrasphere, Oliver Lieb, Miika Kuisma, Son Kite, Tegma, John 00 Fleming, Chris Micali, Freq, Antix. Older stuff from Ferry, Armin, Tiesto, PvD. Techno. Valentino Kanzyani, Umek, Joris Voorn, Alexander Kowalski, Adam Beyer. Psychedelic. Orion, Wizzy Noise, X-Dream, Wrecked Machines, Xerox & Illumination Hardcore - Luna-C, Rob Vanden, Sharkey, Ophidian, Druid Old Skool. Top Buzz, Slipmatt, Carl Cox, Altern8, Prodigy, Ratpack and plenty more. That's not 'elitism' it's just variation.

yeah i listen to a lot of them as well, but armin is still my favorite. I've actually only heard 1 or 2 ASOTs since the yearmixes so in that time he could be sucking it up :noes: i wish my smileys would work

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Originally posted by Purple Yeah look no further than this thread. I just made a simple thread for discussin ASOT 250 this week which by the way everyone posting in here will be listening to. And what I got in return? A bunch of fuctards telling me their taste in music is better than me and rest of all people posting in this thread or listening to ASOT. I know its pretty weird but cant help it, they just wont ignore such threads, they will all jump in right in the middle and start trolling. 1993 stuff: http://www.discogs.com/release/341488 http://www.discogs.com/release/101127 http://www.discogs.com/release/116283 http://www.discogs.com/release/17586 http://www.discogs.com/release/53170

I will not be listening to it. However without the older stuff you laugh at, there wouldn't be the music there is today. It's about having some respect for things beyond your era, even if you don't bother to listen to it ever.

And anyone who doesn't agree with you is a fucktard? What a great analogy, I'm sure that's the way you'll have a happy & prosperous life. It's not trolling (like your threads on drug forums where) but debating. If you can't debate without making it personal, then don't try at all.

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Originally posted by gizzymcg I wasnt saying it was right or wrong. I simply asked you why you thought it was a track conparable to Shivers which its not. You are one of the most negative and deconstructive commentors on here about mainstream "club" trance. Look the music you listen to just doesnt work for people who want to go to clubs and enjoy "normal" trance. Stop trying to "educate" people in your way. There is such a thing as a difference in opinion and i persoanlly dont reckon Armin gives a monkeys what you think. I would love to have Armin circa 2002 back but things are simply very different now. A lot of times you simply slate one of the big name trance DJ's just to cope a reaction out of people.

then again that is my opinion and if you are offended I don't give a jack shit
I didn't know you felt educated lol!!

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Originally posted by RebeL9 then again that is my opinion and if you are offended I don't give a jack shit I didn't know you felt educated lol!!

Em no dont think i said that

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Originally posted by Ian I will not be listening to it. However without the older stuff you laugh at, there wouldn't be the music there is today. It's about having some respect for things beyond your era, even if you don't bother to listen to it ever. And anyone who doesn't agree with you is a fucktard? What a great analogy, I'm sure that's the way you'll have a happy & prosperous life. It's not trolling (like your threads on drug forums where) but debating. If you can't debate without making it personal, then don't try at all.

May be it never crossed your thick skull before, so I will post again:

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Originally posted by Purple Sure the n00b psytrance DJ 'X-Dream' and his album 'Children Of The Last Generation' in the year 1993 was/is/will always remain way much better that what Armin is and plays today. I agree with you; whatever you want... http://www.discogs.com/release/341488 And also do me a favor, put me on your ignore list fat guy; I maintain some standards, and simply because your are picking on me dosent mean you get my attention. Now I had put it as politely (with as much normal English) as I could; so dont start jumping around; taking screen shots of this thread and posting a new poll on me..

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