Werder nearly eliminated Juventus last year.


They have a very strong team this year. Mertessacker, Wome, Frings, Borowski, Diego, Klose... if Chelsea has a bad day it can result in a loss...

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Originally posted by Chang monkey villa and forest have never won the champions league. and never will.it is a different cup now. stop getting hung up on this old time history bullshit, makes no sense for seedings. and we are the european elite, as you will see again this year.

They are PROPER football clubs with a rich history at home and in Europe, they haven't gone out and bought 2 league titles, they spent money yes, but nothing like the money (proportionally) Chelsea have invested. They had sustained success (Forrest anyway) and Villa have won a European cup.

Chelsea haven't even reached a final yet?

And how dare you dismiss trophies other clubs have won "because its a different cup now"? Many people would argue its actually easier to win the thing now. When it was the European cup you couldn't afford to lose even 1 game.

You do seem to typify the clueless, graceless Chelsea-fan stereotype, Chang monkey. I wish rentboys like yourself would just accept the fact that nobody is going to respect your club as long as you keep proclaiming yourself as one of the "elite", when you are clearly not. You are the richest club in the world but your fans are clueless mouthy ****s and you've won 3 leagues, thats it

Valencia won a UEFA cup and reached 2 (I think) Champs League finals under Benitez a few years ago, Man U won it in 99 (admittedly they've been poor in it since), Arsenal were finalists last year and have been in it every year almost, Liverpool won it in 2005, need I go on?

All of these clubs have more history, prestige, class than Chelsea will ever have. You should be in pot 5

Form is temporary, class is permanent

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Originally posted by scAza And how dare you dismiss trophies other clubs have won "because its a different cup now"? Many people would argue its actually easier to win the thing now. When it was the European cup you couldn't afford to lose even 1 game. You do seem to typify the clueless, graceless Chelsea-fan stereotype, Chang monkey. I wish rentboys like yourself would just accept the fact that nobody is going to respect your club as long as you keep proclaiming yourself as one of the "elite", when you are clearly not.

dont make me laugh the champions league is a lot harder to win. alot more strenuous and you need to be more consistent as the tournament progresses.

as for being clueless chelsea fan i am clearly not. i fucking love football, so fuck off bet you didnt fucking drive all the way to germany for the world cup.

chelsea are a hated team, yes, that comes with the terrority of being champions, but chelsea command alot of respect.

and this is the last time i am going to speak about the seeding pots, but the champions league co-efficients are based on the last 5 years performance, and league position.

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Originally posted by Chang monkey chelsea are a hated team, yes, that comes with the terrority of being champions, but chelsea command alot of respect.

that statement is wrong if not laughable

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Originally posted by Chang monkey and this is the last time i am going to speak about the seeding pots, but the champions league co-efficients are based on the last 5 years performance, and league position.

exactly its based on the last 5 years performance chelsea have only been good for the last 2 year uve just said it yourself chelsea dont deserve to be in pot A.

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Originally posted by Chang monkey dont make me laugh the champions league is a lot harder to win. alot more strenuous and you need to be more consistent as the tournament progresses. as for being clueless chelsea fan i am clearly not. i fucking love football, so fuck off bet you didnt fucking drive all the way to germany for the world cup. chelsea are a hated team, yes, that comes with the terrority of being champions, but chelsea command alot of respect. and this is the last time i am going to speak about the seeding pots, but the champions league co-efficients are based on the last 5 years performance, and league position.

How can it be easier when you can lose games? I happen to prefer the current format but I don't think you can argue its harder to win/more valuable now? Theres more games to play yes but how can it be when you can lose games and still be champions, you don't even have to be the Champion of your own league to win the "Champions League", as proved time and time again....


What the fuck has driving to Germany for the world cup got to do with how much of a clueless Chelsea fan you are haha?

Where is your evidence that Chelsea "command a lot of respect"? Of course your team is strong and in that respect other teams respect you, but I'm on about your club/fans/history. You seriously are fuck all on the world map of football, and everyone who's been a footy fan since before 2004 knows it

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ur only defence is this history/nostalgic crap. you can hang onto that if you want.

u wernt even born to see liverpool in their super 70's and u aint gonna seem them pick up a premier title in ur living life haha.

are fans are definatly on the world map, chelsea fans are some of the most infamous on the planet, and also some of the best travelling supporters in past years. chelsea fans and liverpool fans reputations are both ominous.

in terms of the club, chelsea are the one of the highest grossing teams ever last annum.
Terry is the new england captain.
we are the most famous team in the world right now.

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Originally posted by Chang monkey we are the most famous team in the world right now.

We have 2 choices here.
A) You're a retard
B) You're too stupid to be real.

Please, at least say you were just kidding...

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Originally posted by luisjb82 We have 2 choices here. A) You're a retard B) You're too stupid to be real.

does he have to pick one? i would say he is both

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Well, in the 98/99 era Man U was the most famous club in the world, right? Look where they are now (titles-wise).

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Originally posted by Chang monkey ur only defence is this history/nostalgic crap. you can hang onto that if you want. u wernt even born to see liverpool in their super 70's and u aint gonna seem them pick up a premier title in ur living life haha. are fans are definatly on the world map, chelsea fans are some of the most infamous on the planet, and also some of the best travelling supporters in past years. chelsea fans and liverpool fans reputations are both ominous. in terms of the club, chelsea are the one of the highest grossing teams ever last annum. Terry is the new england captain. we are the most famous team in the world right now.

Do the 80s not count haha?

You seem American, are you American?

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