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Originally posted by Allied Nations What are your thoughts and opinions about sampling and when it is right or wrong? Should artists be able to use parts of other artists work in their own work? Is this sort of work able to stand up as an original piece? Do copyright laws against this sort of thing help or hurt artists? What issues are raised by sampling in your mind and ultimately what is your opinion? Is this art form legitimate in all it's incarnations? Have been thinking about this issue for quite a while now, and would love the opinion of some of you guys. Cheers, Greg

I think sampling can be a great part to producing. If you use a sample that can be distinguishable to listeners, meaning they recognize that piece is from another song, then I think the orignal producer and title should be accredited.
But, for example, if you cut one eighth note out of an entire song, I feel that it is safe to use without adding the original producer and title. Just like playing that note on a keyboard, but the type of sound associated with that specific note has already been created.
I don't think anyone's feelings should be hurt.

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Originally posted by Azia I think sampling can be a great part to producing. If you use a sample that can be distinguishable to listeners, meaning they recognize that piece is from another song, then I think the orignal producer and title should be accredited. But, for example, if you cut one eighth note out of an entire song, I feel that it is safe to use without adding the original producer and title. Just like playing that note on a keyboard, but the type of sound associated with that specific note has already been created. I don't think anyone's feelings should be hurt.

For example, this track I've been working on...the samples I took out are enough for people to recognize what tracks I originally took them from. http://tranceaddict.com/forums/show...6&forumid=74&s= So I would include the origninal titles and producers when I label the song (except that I still don't know the title to one of the songs I used)

But another one I did, I took roughly a quarter note of a synth out of global deejays "stars on 45" and put it in the track "white horse" but there is no way someone could recognize that tiny note, so I wouldn't include the original track title and producer I sampled it from. Does that sound about right?

sampling is ok, as long as its not overdone, and sampling to create a remix is pure lazy and uninspiring.....but sampling is how a track is built right, laying samples over samples, so thats ok, but as for ripping off other tracks or movies its terrible and is only fit to be played to uninspiring people...IMO

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Originally posted by fu_jac sampling is ok, as long as its not overdone, and sampling to create a remix is pure lazy and uninspiring.....but sampling is how a track is built right, laying samples over samples, so thats ok, but as for ripping off other tracks or movies its terrible and is only fit to be played to uninspiring people...IMO

Totally uninspiring

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Originally posted by Azia Does that sound about right?

I don't know, it really depends on a lot of factors, not necessarily just your own thoughts and opinions.

If I knew you'd done that and I was the record label rep, there's a good possibility I wouldn't sign you. It's a big liability.

But then egain, just one 1/4 note...

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I used to be a big stich about it after i found out that greece 2000 was basically an old italo track sampled and redone with a new melody. But i realise now that without sampling we wouldnt have the amazing house tracks and trance tracks we have today. I love going back in time and finding out where the samples came from and what inspired the producers of today.

Sometimes its overdone though and no credit or tribute is given. For instance madison avenues track "don't call me baby" is basically an italian disco track called Ma Quale Idea by Pino D'Angio from 1978 or 1980 (im not sure) with new vocals.

We have to realise that the EDM today is built on the music of yesterday. Its always nice to see that the past isn't forgotten and brought up in music. Copyright violations are probably why credit is not given. But if you can't figure it out and the majority can't figure it out, lets keep it underground and enjoy it.