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Originally posted by mezzir i see where both of you are coming from and i'm somewhere in the middle the answer? instead of describing him as bitter and unhappy...try cynical then everything's solved cause he is cynical, but its not a negative word by definition, i'm cynical and i know it

cynical
One entry found for cynical.
Main Entry: cyn·i·cal
Pronunciation: 'si-ni-k&l
Function: adjective
1 : CAPTIOUS, PEEVISH
2 : having or showing the attitude or temper of a cynic : as a : contemptuously distrustful of human nature and motives b : based on or reflecting a belief that human conduct is motivated primarily by self-interest
- cyn·i·cal·ly /-k(&-)lE/ adverb
synonyms CYNICAL, MISANTHROPIC, PESSIMISTIC mean deeply distrustful. CYNICAL implies having a sneering disbelief in sincerity or integrity . MISANTHROPIC suggests a rooted distrust and dislike of human beings and their society . PESSIMISTIC implies having a gloomy, distrustful view of life .

gloomy and untrustful doesn't necessarily mean you can't be happy
trust me, i'm a cynic
and yes, cynicism(sp?) can lead to bitterness, but is not necessarily related

idk i guess i just don't take it to have an implicitly negative connotation

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Originally posted by squirrelly Ok, well you just continue being bitter and unhappy and proclaiming that things such as God and Destiny and Fate don't exist... and I'll go on being fantastically happy with my own life and beliefs.

youre making assumptions without any evidence. i am neither bitter nor unhappy. mildly amused at the utter bullshit you cretins might choose to swallow, but thats all.

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Originally posted by squirrelly ps - it's YOUR life... not "YOU'RE life".

i do actually know that. every now and then even i make the odd spelling error.

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Originally posted by squirrelly And I never said that ONLY my life has special meaning.

i didnt argue that.

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Originally posted by mezzir lol, given your point of view and what you'd said so far, bad choice of words

haha, it was meant to be ironic

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN haha, it was meant to be ironic

you smell that? I smell backtracking!

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN youre making assumptions without any evidence. i am neither bitter nor unhappy. mildly amused at the utter bullshit you cretins might choose to swallow, but thats all.

Right, cause THAT wasn't bitter.

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Originally posted by squirrelly Judging by the tone that's apparent from his words, I'd say he, himself said he was bitter. He spazzed out and went off on a tangent about how there are billions of people and species in the world, how dare I think that my life is special... way to attack someone for simply saying it gives people hope.

not a spazz out. just thinking your position lacked credibility or forethought is all.

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Originally posted by squirrelly Believe what you want - but there's never any reason to knock on other peoples beliefs... especially if A) they aren't even remotely trying to push their beliefs on you, and B) it makes them happy.

then whats the point in having a discussion at all then? this thread is about the existence (or lack thereof) of fate. if you cant question, learn from, debunk or refine somebody elses position, why bother ever having a conversation ever?

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Originally posted by squirrelly What the fuck do you care what I believe in? Focus on yourself!

keep your beliefs to yourself then. by posting on a forum you make your beliefs an open target for anyone. if you cant handle a discussion that is critical of your position, then dont post them.

now, justify your belief in faith and destiny. tell me how they work, how they intermingle and relate to concepts of free will. im all for different opinions, but i want to hear logical and well-constructed beliefs when dicussing immeasurable notions like destiny.

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Originally posted by squirrelly Right, cause THAT wasn't bitter.

see that comes off as bitter to you, but to him its just laughing at your stupidity
you guys realize there's no end to this argument, right?

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Originally posted by Demoted you smell that? I smell backtracking!

haha. sorry, it was actually deliberate

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Originally posted by squirrelly Right, cause THAT wasn't bitter.

frustration, amusement or annoyance with people's gullible nature or their tendency to believe in fantastic notions devoid of any evidence does not make me bitter.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN not a spazz out. just thinking your position lacked credibility or forethought is all. then whats the point in having a discussion at all then? this thread is about the existence (or lack thereof) of fate. if you cant question, learn from, debunk or refine somebody elses position, why bother ever having a conversation ever?

Why did it lack credibility? I wasn't trying to make a believer out of anyone? Usually when someone asks a yes or no question, you answer yes or no. Not yes, and here's a list as to the reasons why. I don't need your approval I've never been one of those people who feel the need to "prove" why I believe the things I do. What happened to make me believe in something, is none of your business.

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keep your beliefs to yourself then. by posting on a forum you make your beliefs an open target for anyone. if you cant handle a discussion that is critical of your position, then dont post them.

Who said I can't handle it?

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now, justify your belief in faith and destiny. tell me how they work, how they intermingle and relate to concepts of free will. im all for different opinions, but i want to hear logical and well-constructed beliefs when dicussing immeasurable notions like destiny.

Do you go around commanding people in real life? I would love to see that. Again, the thread beginning said "yes or no" Not "yes or no and explain your answer".

And I don't give a shit what you want to hear. I could give a flying fuck if you believe in fate or destiny. I believe, you don't. I have reasons, and I honestly don't feel like it's necessary to divulge in personal matters on the internet with a stranger, just because you said so.

So stuff it already.

ok guys, there's only one way to say it
rock, paper, scissors

both of you pm me with your choice, the winner will be declared correct, the loser banned from refuting any statements anymore in this thread
agreed?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN frustration, amusement or annoyance with people's gullible nature or their tendency to believe in fantastic notions devoid of any evidence does not make me bitter.

Why should that bother you though? Other people's beliefs have no effect on your life. Basically you're admitting how weak you are by choosing to be intolerant to things that have nothing to do with you. Way to go.