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Marcolissimo
Supreme tranceaddict

Registered: Jan 2006
Location: On the road
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If you've been applying for a while and you're not getting anything, it's either cause the companies you're applying to are taking a while to get their shit together, or you're "mass-applying".
At my company, if they say oh we need new engineers, it takes them months (4-5) to actually start interviewing people.
If I could give anyone a single piece of advice, it would be to spend time on your resume and cover letter. Usually, you wanna have a good resume that applies to 90% of the positions you're applying to... BUT your cover letter should be custom tailored to each position. When I got out of school I used to apply for 50 positions/week... and I got nothing out of it. Then I started to change my cover letter on each application and mention the skills the job posting was asking for... didn't take me long to get 3-4 interviews, and out of those I got 3 offers.
I'm mentioning this cause the thread started with "I graduated from engineering and I can't find work": technical skills are good to have, but most employers want to see that you're motivated and that you can learn. They never expect you to know everything they ask for on the job posting, they'll train you when you start anyway.
Most of the guys that graduated with me had resumes full of buzz words, XML, SQL, database this and that... but that means shit. Your resume should explain HOW you used these skills to contribute to previous employers and/or school projects.
Don't lie and when you do go on an interview, don't bullshit... if you don't know something, just say "I don't know"... there's no shame in that.
Oh, and Workopolis sucks ass... Monster is much better, in my opinion.
Good luck.
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Apr-18-2007 19:36
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UmmiE
The Cure And The Cause

Registered: Jan 2007
Location: Brampton
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Apr-27-2007 05:58
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monishb
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Vancouver-Toronto-Dubai-Mumbai
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| quote: | Originally posted by jdjd
Very good advice.
No experience? LIE. Put phony projects and work experience on your resume, go with a big name company. But be sure you know your shit, you should have a solid understanding of your field, and prepare stories to tell during the interview (problems you overcame, creative solutions to problems, ways that you contributed to the company etc). And have some phony references handy (ask a few friends to pose as your previous managers, who should also sound like they know what they're talking about). As long as you get past interviews and in the door, thats all that matters. Worst case scenario, you do a crappy job and you get canned in the first few months. But by that point you have gained a few months of experience, and will be even more convincing on your next interview.
Luckily I have been able to get experience during school with internships, but if I didn't I would not hesitate to use fabricated work experience. In the corporate world it is very easy to get around this problem, companies dont even verify that you have a degree nevermind verify your past work experience. |
thats the only way you can get in nowdays, so i agree...
If your going to tell the truth chances are you wont get the job.
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Apr-27-2007 06:03
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monishb
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Vancouver-Toronto-Dubai-Mumbai
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Apr-27-2007 06:05
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haus
Junior tranceaddict
Registered: Dec 2006
Location: Toronto
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| quote: | Originally posted by riskytrader
At any position where you are licensed to trade securities there is an INTENSIVE 10 year background check. I remember my form came back to me because I messed up a month where I lived...i.e when I was 12 I moved and my form got rejected because officially I moved in June and not July. For the most part companies that deal with financial services have at least a 5 year background check on most employees regardless of licensing. While yes, references are generally not given unless you sign a waiver they can verify time, salary and position title.
Never ever lie on your resume because chances are it will come back to haunt you. We've had people lie about a degree, honours vs ordinary..they needed one more course for an honours, and a manager literally had to fight HR to have this person keep their job. Most managers wouldn't bother. |
any advice on how to go about getting or eventually getting a trading job? or is it all connections?
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Apr-27-2007 06:27
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