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Originally posted by Lira No, it's not illiterate. If speakers think it's necessary to use "they" to refer to one person, and this use is well understood in a community, the only thing lagging behind is the "grammar". Unfortunately, written grammars are not wikis

den dis shitz aint not illigitimerate eithers.

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Originally posted by Allied Nations it amazes me that people care

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Originally posted by inconspicuous

seriously, i mean, its just a grammaical error. chiiiiillll



such a small thing to get annoyed by, such a waste of energy

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Originally posted by Zewad i love to call people out on double negatives.... that really does say..."you are dumb" and "i caught you being dumb"

What's dumb about double negatives?

The whole "two negatives make a positive" argument is deeply flawed.
Languages don't necessarily work like that. Think of it in
mathematical terms:

A. (-1) x (-1) = 1
B. (-1) + (-1) = -2

When one uses double negatives, (s)he's using the "B" way of thinking.
I can't avoid using double negatives in my mother language, and
neither could Aristotle, Plato and all these first logicians, whose
logic was far more important than that of so called "Grammarians".

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Originally posted by Cloudburst When I chat in Swedish I sometimes have a tendency to get sloppy, because I think much faster than I write (and I don't write slow ). I guess it's the same for english speaking people. Or maybe they just suck at spelling those words.

Hehe, it's a similar thing

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Originally posted by klingklang77 Yeah it is American English. When I began teaching in Australia I had an American English grammar book and it said both were ok. But when I asked the head teacher here, he said it was wrong and I learned that no one says it here. I grew up learning it was OK, but it is actually incorrect. The differences in American English and British English are really interesting (to me at least). Certain countries (Japan, Korea and a few others) learn American English, so at times it makes my job difficult. I often get questions about Past simple used with yet, already and other Present perfect time words and I have to tell them that it is incorrect, which breaks my heart, b/c they struggle with Present perfect to begin with. When they get to a higher level I let them know you can use Past simple with yet, already etc. I think any American would agree that you can use yet, already, since etc with Past simple. They have no idea that technically it is incorrect.

hmm... I really don't know whether it's fair to say something is incorrect when ~300 million speakers don't think it is (specially when they're more than 3 quarters of all speakers of the language).

It's pretty much like personal pronouns in Portuguese. ~89% of all Portuguese speakers live in Brazil, and most people here use a rather different system of personal pronouns (me included :P):

Eu a vi (Standard Portuguese - literally "I her saw")
Eu vi Ela (Brazilian Colloquial Portuguese - "I saw she")
Dá-me (Standard Portuguese - literally "Give-me")
Me dá (Brazilian Colloquial Portuguese "Me Give")

I know I feel really unconformable using standard Portuguese, because it's not my mother language. Yet, this is supposed to be the "correct" form, in spite of how 90% of all speakers actually speak.

That's why I think there's something really wrong with the way grammar is taught at schools, as far as I'm concerned.

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Originally posted by inconspicuous den dis shitz aint not illigitimerate eithers.

Do people really say "ain't not"? But Black Vernicular English is not illegitimate, although some people are still confused about what to do with it

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wow, they're seems to be a big debate going on in here...

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Originally posted by inconspicuous AndreaCKY772. just. so. dumb.

they're going there for their things.

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Originally posted by AndreaCKY772 wow, they're seems to be a big debate going on in here...

incorrect usage of "they're" n00b.

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue incorrect usage of "they're" n00b.

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Originally posted by inconspicuous AndreaCKY772. just. so. dumb.

Everyone makes this mistake, and if you say you don't you're a lying ****.

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Originally posted by Allied Nations seriously, i mean, its just a grammaical error. chiiiiillll such a small thing to get annoyed by, such a waste of energy

Yeah, man. That's just, like, your opinion, man. PLUR.

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Originally posted by Allied Nations seriously, i mean, its just a grammaical error. chiiiiillll such a small thing to get annoyed by, such a waste of energy

fuck off, GRAMMER IS IMPORTTANT!

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