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The Arbiter
Senior tranceaddict

Registered: Sep 2007
Location: Sheffield, pondering the shiteness
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| quote: | | look, if you cant follow the argument then i try to repeat myself in a different way so cretins can follow what im saying. please, feel free to question me about the particular facets of FPS gaming that halo shares with older and better games. especially if my original statements are lacking a concise description. |
Firstly, could you point out were it was you made this magical explanation? Secondly, when you make a claim you back it up. It isnt up to me to poke holes through an arguement that only half exists.
| quote: | | thiscoming from the guy that likes to argue with people on the internet and goes by the name of the arbiter. |
Argueing on the internet does not mean I have a massive ego, just opinions that I defend from other people who actually have egos. My screen name is just that, a screen name.
| quote: | | first off, i would LOVE to hear your justication for your continued presumption that halo and the other unrealistic alien fragging games are somehow particularly different cos it just aint true, but please, humour me |
Let me explain it to you, seeying as games being different from eachother is obviously such a wacky idea. Halo and Quake don't play the same. Infact, they play so differently and the concept behind them so different that they arnt even the same class of game besides the generalisation of an FPS. Them simply being FPS games does not make them the same type of game. If I was to go a step further to iterate my point I could ask you why Quake and Rainbowsix are the same. Obviously they arnt in the same way Halo isnt the same type of game. It's another type of game, incomparable thanks to the completely different game dynamics. This is at the very core of difference between games and refusing to acknowledge it doenst make it false.
My gaming experience is not as vast as yours, but your experience spans into antoher era, an era that is rapidly fading into ancient history and its influences being rapidly forgotten. I come from the Doom age, which is sufficient experience. I've been Hardcore right from the start and competitive gaming is in the very essence of my existance. Dont make the mistake of assuming I have no knowledge or that I dont know my shit, especially when it comes to PC games. I know what your talking about, but fact is I dont agree withit on any level.
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Sep-27-2007 12:10
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RJT
last minute disco

Registered: Oct 2004
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Sep-27-2007 21:36
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bas
Stronger Lover

Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Here I Am Baby
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Sep-27-2007 21:38
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pkcRAISTLIN
arbiter's chief minion

Registered: Jul 2002
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| quote: | Originally posted by The Arbiter
Firstly, could you point out were it was you made this magical explanation? Secondly, when you make a claim you back it up. It isnt up to me to poke holes through an arguement that only half exists.
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| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
oh yeah sorry. my mistake. that's why the extreme "tactical" nature of this shooter had deathmatch and team deathmatch as 50% of its multiplayer modes (at least, memory is a bit foggy). tactical shooter don't give the games airs it doesn't deserve.
halo is an unrealistic shooter played in a deathmatch fashion, circle strafing included. so a comparison to any other unrealistic shooter where you circle strafe aliens is a completely valid point. |
so we have, deathmatch, team deathmatch and capture the flag. ooh! tactical!
| quote: | Originally posted by The Arbiter
Argueing on the internet does not mean I have a massive ego, just opinions that I defend from other people who actually have egos. My screen name is just that, a screen name. |
only people with egos argue on the internet imo 
| quote: | Originally posted by The Arbiter
Let me explain it to you, seeying as games being different from eachother is obviously such a wacky idea. Halo and Quake don't play the same. Infact, they play so differently and the concept behind them so different that they arnt even the same class of game besides the generalisation of an FPS. Them simply being FPS games does not make them the same type of game. If I was to go a step further to iterate my point I could ask you why Quake and Rainbowsix are the same. Obviously they arnt in the same way Halo isnt the same type of game. It's another type of game, incomparable thanks to the completely different game dynamics. This is at the very core of difference between games and refusing to acknowledge it doenst make it false. |
yes, rainbow six and quake are certainly different. but no, halo and the other unrealistic shooters really are not, for reasons i have posted again ^^. having played my fair share of multiplayer halo i contend that it plays exactly the same as the others of its ilk, just much worse, slow, less skillful and boring. rainbow six et al is also very slow, but hardly boring because of its more lethal dynamic. again, im not calling them the same simply because theyre both FPSs- that would be silly
| quote: | Originally posted by The Arbiter
My gaming experience is not as vast as yours, but your experience spans into antoher era, an era that is rapidly fading into ancient history and its influences being rapidly forgotten. I come from the Doom age, which is sufficient experience. I've been Hardcore right from the start and competitive gaming is in the very essence of my existance. Dont make the mistake of assuming I have no knowledge or that I dont know my shit, especially when it comes to PC games. I know what your talking about, but fact is I dont agree withit on any level. |
oh, i didnt post my life history to say i know more than you (or anyone else) just pointing out that im not a fanboy, im not here to champion any system (or game) over another, to illustrate that i just love gaming, on all systems, and all types of games. just that halo, given its colossal popularity, isn't all its cracked up to be, and wouldn't have been nearly as famous had it existed primarily on another format 
anywayz, i'll try and be nicer next time i yell at you. but "trying" doesnt mean "succeeding" 
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Sep-27-2007 23:19
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