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wotyzoid
it's not house



Registered: Apr 2007
Location: New Jersey

quote:
Originally posted by Rebel Brown
Jungle and breakbeat are 4/4.


I feel like I made a dumb mistake but I still don't know how. Carte to explain. Isn't music meters measured by stressed beats.


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Old Post Oct-08-2007 21:19  United States
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basvh
Bert says: Hatseflats!



Registered: Oct 2000
Location: Amsterdam + Ammerzoden

quote:
Originally posted by wotyzoid
That's not minimal, but 'minimal'.


If you look at it very technical you are 100% right.

I can understand that techno and minimal purists are mad that the genre is soo hyped up and that tech-house-with-some-minimal-elements are being qualified as minimal tracks.

However I still think the 'minimal' scene is healthy. Parties remain great, crowd is very enthusiastic (as you can see on the vids) and enough new quality releases. Personally I think DJ's like James Holden are rocking with a nice blend of minimal, 'minimal', neo-trance, acid and (real) electro.

On the downside, when you are at a minimal party you see a lot of people with the same clothes, drug-use (cocaine, Ketamine anyone?) hairstyle (richie should have copyrighted his own cut) and dance-shuffle. Maybe not the best direction minimal is going but this happenes to every musicgenre (non-edm included.)


I think people bitching about Minimal and 'Minimal' should stop, just hop on the next elite-bandwagon: Dubstep, Deephouse or Nu-rave.


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idoru
You Can Call Me Al



Registered: May 2004
Location: Cascadia

quote:
Originally posted by wotyzoid
I feel like I made a dumb mistake but I still don't know how. Carte to explain. Isn't music meters measured by stressed beats.


4/4 is the time signature, not the style of beat. The straight kick is often called "four-to-the-floor" because it is four beats per bar, and in a 4/4 time signature there are only four beats to a bar. Everything in a 4/4 time signature happens in multiples of four. I highly suggest that you read up on music theory.

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wotyzoid
it's not house



Registered: Apr 2007
Location: New Jersey

quote:
Originally posted by basvh
If you look at it very technical you are 100% right.

I can understand that techno and minimal purists are mad that the genre is soo hyped up and that tech-house-with-some-minimal-elements are being qualified as minimal tracks.

However I still think the 'minimal' scene is healthy. Parties remain great, crowd is very enthusiastic (as you can see on the vids) and enough new quality releases. Personally I think DJ's like James Holden are rocking with a nice blend of minimal, 'minimal', neo-trance, acid and (real) electro.

On the downside, when you are at a minimal party you see a lot of people with the same clothes, drug-use (cocaine, Ketamine anyone?) hairstyle (richie should have copyrighted his own cut) and dance-shuffle. Maybe not the best direction minimal is going but this happenes to every musicgenre (non-edm included.)


I think people bitching about Minimal and 'Minimal' should stop, just hop on the next elite-bandwagon: Dubstep, Deephouse or Nu-rave.


I'm definitely not bitching though I love 'minimal' but it's just not minimal. Mislabeling is not cool no matter how many people do it.


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distant
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quote:
Originally posted by wotyzoid
I feel like I made a dumb mistake but I still don't know how. Carte to explain. Isn't music meters measured by stressed beats.


They're 4/4 time signature but not four-to-the-floor, i.e. there isn't necessarily a kickdrum on every beat.

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basvh
Bert says: Hatseflats!



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quote:
Originally posted by wotyzoid
I'm definitely not bitching though I love 'minimal' but it's just not minimal. Mislabeling is not cool no matter how many people do it.


yeah I know, almost same story goes with electro-house.


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wotyzoid
it's not house



Registered: Apr 2007
Location: New Jersey

quote:
Originally posted by distant
They're 4/4 time signature but not four-to-the-floor, i.e. there isn't necessarily a kickdrum on every beat.


Ummm I see.


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idoru
You Can Call Me Al



Registered: May 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by wotyzoid
Ummm I see.


quote:
Originally posted by idoru
4/4 is the time signature, not the style of beat. The straight kick is often called "four-to-the-floor" because it is four beats per bar, and in a 4/4 time signature there are only four beats to a bar. Everything in a 4/4 time signature happens in multiples of four. I highly suggest that you read up on music theory.


Seriously, dude.

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wotyzoid
it's not house



Registered: Apr 2007
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quote:
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Seriously, dude.


Chillax I didn't see your post, and I'm still learning notes so give me a break.


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RJT
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Chillax I didn't see your post, and I'm still learning notes so give me a break.


You make it a point not to give anyone else a break, so why should anyone cut you any slack?


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wotyzoid
it's not house



Registered: Apr 2007
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quote:
Originally posted by RJT
You make it a point not to give anyone else a break, so why should anyone cut you any slack?



stick to DJ'ing , Rob...


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