Labor...

wtf tho I totally wanted communist...

if immigrants to this country dont want to speak english, i dont care. as long as theyre not driving cabs or in call centres etc

to be honest, id probably be too lazy to learn another language that i thought would be especially difficult to learn. and english is meant to be pretty difficult- just look how many americans struggle with it everyday!

there can be significant social cohesion problems with immigrants that dont learn the language. its pretty much the biggest barrier there is. endemic poverty, unemployment and crime are a serious possibility due to intense social isolation.

either way, a lot of immigrants have had a hard time so id prefer giving them a little slack.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN to be honest, id probably be too lazy to learn another language that i thought would be especially difficult to learn. and english is meant to be pretty difficult- just look how many americans struggle with it everyday!

I lol'd

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Originally posted by nchs09 why?

I wasn't stating that, it was a question asked in the 'quiz'. My post referres to the possible answer of "only if everyone born here has to pass the test too." I probably should have put it as a quote to avoid confuzzlement.

[To state my thoughts on the subject, I think that US citizens should be held to higher-than-current standards as to their knowledge of government and its processes as well as their ability to speak english (because too many suck at it). I do not think that someone applying for citizenship should be held to a HIGHER standard than that. The possible answer to the quiz implies a situation where someone applying for citizenship is held to a higher standard, hence my post. Having been born as a US citizen, I have very little knowledge of the citizenship process so I don't know what standards, if any, there are.]

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN there can be significant social cohesion problems with immigrants that dont learn the language. its pretty much the biggest barrier there is. endemic poverty, unemployment and crime are a serious possibility due to intense social isolation.

I think I agree with that, but I'm too tired to think it through right now. Stockton has a fairly bad reputation when it comes to such issues.

My question for the Australians here is, when you've been discussing the extent to which immigrants must go to fit into society, are you talking about illegals or those who have become citizens?

I ask this because I wonder how your situation compares to ours. Border jumpers can walk into a DMV (dept. of motor vehicles) and get a driver licence. DMV, by law, can't report their illegal status to the INS (immigration and naturalization service). Then they can vote for politicians (I'll leave the party out, that's not what I'm discussing here, nor do I want to.) who pander to them by making it legal to get a driver's licence without being reported and to vote. They can use all the government resources that citizens get taxed for and they don't pay a dime in taxes.

Anyway, what are "poms?" I couldn't quite pin it down from context.

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Originally posted by 3F05Q Anyway, what are "poms?" I couldn't quite pin it down from context.

Englishmen.

It's a semi-derogatory but playful term that Australians use.

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Originally posted by Beat Blog Englishmen. It's a semi-derogatory but playful term that Australians use.

it actually stands for 'Prisoner Of her Majesty' and originally denoted the first settler convicts. somehow we changed it around!

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN either way, a lot of immigrants have had a hard time so id prefer giving them a little slack.

Cut me some slack then!