yep. give him the boot.

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Getting back to the poll...

... this was probably a good discussion to start. Even if there is no draconian rule to lay down, as much as I can tell Lira was looking to consolodate power , it's still usefull to see that most people would prefer some amount of opinion to go with the start of a thread.

That sounds reasonable.

As much as this isn't a news feed I still enjoy takeing a look at articles that other people post. The fact that most of the users here are getting thier news from different places makes it a good way to get a more round oppinion.

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And since we are on the topic of banning, why not just ignore posts by users who consistently write things that aren't interesting? Unless a user is spamming then I don't see why someone should be silenced.

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Originally posted by atbell And since we are on the topic of banning, why not just ignore posts by users who consistently write things that aren't interesting? Unless a user is spamming then I don't see why someone should be silenced.

Latin isn't posting things that aren't interesting. On the contrary, I'm interested in his posts and headlines and have attempted to get him to engage in a debate for a rationale as to why he posted them. Or I have refuted his arguments and/or the arguments of his stories and have received no viable response in return. When someone incessantly copies/pastes articles in a debating forum and refuses to engage in a debate or even a worthwhile discussion about his article posted, then why is he here? This forum is not a bulletin board, nor should it ever be.

Furthermore, it's clear that LatinLover has had a history of what you call "being silenced" (i.e. banned or suspended) for a very good reason, one in which he's demonstrated in this forum time and again (and has been banned from this forum once as a consequence). He's also taken it a few steps further by attempting to attack and slander me personally (rather badly at that) instead of engaging the points and questions posed directly toward him, as I outlined above.

So I think both his past and present actions speak volumes about this issue.

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Originally posted by LatinLover Due to high demand and to all those fellow members that messaged me not to leave, which I thank all of you for your kind words, Ive decided to give this section one more chance

Oh for the love of god please tell us who is begging you to stay. I mean I want you to stay too, but that's because I take sadistic pleasure in people making asses out of themselves.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 When someone incessantly copies/pastes articles in a debating forum and refuses to engage in a debate or even a worthwhile discussion about his article posted, then why is he here?

That's a good question. I can only speculate that Latin's posting to read the responses to his posts. It's clear that he does because he replies to them, even if not in a debating manner.

But I'd pose the question to LatinLover, why are you here? What do you enjoy about putting blocks of text up on the internet and having what seems to be a mostly hostile audience read/respond to them?

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Originally posted by atbell But I'd pose the question to LatinLover, why are you here?

He's just Trolling. There are actually a few people here that never really seem to add anything meaningful to our conversations (and/or frequently use personal attacks) so after having gotten tired of dealing with it (over the course of a few years) I just recently started using TA's ignore feature. The funny thing is, he is pretty bad but he's not even on my list yet.

Kay, lads, I'm going to read this thread thoroughly and carefully as soon as I get back from uni.

Meanwhile, I'm going to lock it, just so I can take care of all this drama

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Originally posted by Lira Kay, lads, I'm going to read this thread thoroughly and carefully as soon as I get back from uni.

I'm back. First, let's talk about LatinLover.

It rang a bell when he said he had not "found a worth while member to engage in a debate". I still haven't changed my mind about him: I'm against banning him, and if we learnt anything from the previous poll is that: (1) Banning him won't do any good, and (2) we should learn to live with all sorts of different users, even if it does seem they're trolling.

We can't compare the PDD to other boards (specially regional ones). We're full of users who are academically active (either as undergraduate or graduate students), and who must live in an environment where debate is valued. In such places we quickly learn that if an argument doesn't hold water, we should just dismiss it. I personally disagree with LatinLover's stance on most issues, and I find his arguments really unconvincing. But, that doesn't mean we should give him the boot and/or judge him (rather than his arguments).

So, I'm not banning him unless he posts messages that are "obscene, vulgar, excessively sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws." - we all agreed to that when we joined.

Also, I won't be closing threads just yet. Any debate regarding this issue would eventually become a discussion on LatinLover's behaviour, so I think we should wait before trying to tackle this "thread quality" problem.

Should you find a lousy thread, with nasty copy pasta, just ignore it, and it shall disappear in its journey to the 2nd page. Oh, and the "news thread" isn't a bad idea.

Gotta go now, I'll reply to the pm's soon.

edit: Sorry if my English is confusing... I'm really tired

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