Seemed appropriate.

___________________
last minute disco dot net

quote:

Originally posted by AustralianGQ yea i agree. i dont think its easier for a man, the original posters comments sound pretty sexest to me...their are alot of great female dj/producers out their.

and then we have such brilliant examples of backwards evolution as yourself. You should be proud, it's about the only thing you'll ever win.

quote:

Originally posted by julien2 You posted exactly the same thing as me, but in a far more intelligible way ! I agree completely with you.

haha, well I suppose I was agreeing with your post.

quote:

Originally posted by RJTLovely to see all the human physiologists and evolutionary biologists coming out of the woodwork on this one.

admittedly, it's a stupid topic that inspires some stupid posts, but is there anything wrong with just talking about something?

quote:

Originally posted by RJT Lovely to see all the human physiologists and evolutionary biologists coming out of the woodwork on this one.

Wominz are for COOKING!

___________________

quote:

Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

their small brains can't handle it. it's science

quote:

Originally posted by nefardec admittedly, it's a stupid topic that inspires some stupid posts, but is there anything wrong with just talking about something?

Nah - it's just funny to see some folks make statements that essentially amount to little more than theoretical explanations for observable differences in sex and gender as if they were fact.

And you've gotta give at least this to me - there's far more hilarious idiocy in here than worthwhile discussion of sec/gender contrast.

___________________
last minute disco dot net

quote:

Originally posted by RJT Nah - it's just funny to see some folks make statements that essentially amount to little more than theoretical explanations for observable differences in sex and gender as if they were fact. And you've gotta give at least this to me - there's far more hilarious idiocy in here than worthwhile discussion of sec/gender contrast.

"Men are better in spatial tasks and women in verbal processing"-this statement is actually not something that some of us got out of our minds. It is well supported by numerous experiments which were conducted over the last 50 years or so. Men are better in spatial rotation experiments and women have a superior performance in both verbal short- and long-term memory tasks (verbal span). Now, the REASON for such a FACTUAL difference COULD be cultural, but additional evidence supports that such a distinction is biological, and hence has evolutionary origins.


The recent branch of "evolutionary psychology" (ex-sociobiology) supports that if a cognitive or behavioural function has a genetic basis then it probably had an evolutionary advantage in the past. How do we understand that a cognitive or behavioural function has a genetic (and not environmental) basis? If it has, then such a function must have a corresponding "module" in the brain which is there right from the start (the birth) of an individual and should mature with the corresponding chemical changes of the body. Now, male babies with various syndromes that under-expose their bodies to androgens (male hormones) are WORSE in the spatial processing tasks mentioned before. On the cotrary, female babies over-exposed to androgens have superior spatial processing. These data suggest that the observed (factual) superior spatial processing of males has a genetic-and hence-evolutionary basis. Furthermore, the superior verbal processing of women is probably an epiphenomenon of their superior emotional/inter-personal processing in general. Girls at the age of 6 and 7 are more accurate then men in understanding the expressed emotion of a pictured face meaning that females are superior in social-cognitive skills such as empathy. These are correlated with their superior verbal scores. Young females have superior verbal spans in comparison to young males.

Since such differences are proven, and since a genetic basis of such differences is proven, then such differences must have an evolutionary basis. The strongest evolutionary explanation for such a factual observed difference is the "division of labour" hypothesis mentioned before. Through thousand of years of natural selection, better hunters had better visuo-spatial and logic-driven skills and hence were selected, and better mothers had better social/interpersonal/verbal/emotional skills and hence were selected. So, it is little more then "theoretical explanations for observed gender differences". Everything in science is "Theoretical", the key is to have facts that support the "theory" and in the current case, such facts exist. It is not bad to have an ACTUAL conversation in the music discussion section from time to time eh? I mean it doesn't make you feel sick or something?

It's called class society and the separation of sexes for purpose of oppression, just one less group to worry about and keep separated against others, ergo society has been male dominated because it just worked out that way, stronger, testosterone drive, situation, and all other factors, its connected and related to class oppression. Thus we naturally have a strong repression of any ideas that had came from women, how can we know unless we read or get the information from another source, which can only be in the form of information or mouth to mouth, which consequently is essentially culture. But with recent advancement and the current generation we live in at a time, more and more naturally realize we are all equal, i.e after WWI, WWII, etc in America we see women can do the exact labor as men, blacks are not animals, are not strangers, the person you hate turns out to be just like you, when all capitalist economic systems fail there will be nothing but the bare separation of class, those who have been exploited and those who have done the exploiting…along with their ignorant followers and other pawns of the devil. We are equal, females have lower test we have higher. They have pussy for purpose of naturally continuing the circle of energy into new form, like everything, they even have what is equal to the penis, the clitoris. We can't exist without the other; it’s that simple, at least for higher forms of living energy. Some animals walk along the border of “life” and “non-life” by being asexual or males who are able to reproduce, or viruses, which naturally seek out reproduction but are not made of cells but do carry genes, dna, and evolve by natural selection (wikipedia.) But socially at the moment women have lived under oppression for at least 10K years, just as the entire working class, or almost any oppressed class, etc. it can change though, at one point men and women were equal in pre-historic societies and is absolutely possible but only in a communistic society....or death, after all, this simply exists because you and I exist. It's dualism revealing itself once again in everything; the answer is there is no answer, at least not through information, i.e. words, information, comprehension, data. You can only read because you have eyes, you can only hear because you have ears, take them away and you left in darkness, take away touch, feeling, relax in numbness of which you come. Take it all away and you have everything that made it up to begin with, which is just chemicals and energy, but you are aware, and everything that made you will make something else, or "nothing" as we are scientifically aware of dark energy, which we can not see or completely understand it but it is there, it makes up ¾ of our universe. There is no one to be aware, not separated at least, nor together, it just is, incomprehensible.


Anyway, just listening to James Holden at the Controls ranting off into b.s.

quote:

Originally posted by montana here's my two cents about female producers/dj's etc, since there are a couple of types of them, actually, no you have two. you have the ones that tries to get through without using their looks or the fact they are women to get booked etc etc. these women will get heavily critised for being crap dj's/producers and will be rated ugly even if they are attractive just because they don't want to demean their selves by playing the game. then you have the other type, women who use their looks (even to extreme measures like 'portia surreal' who would never get booked normalwise). these women basicly ruin for the first type, especially clueless bints like portia surreal, and girls who just wave their hair and pout their red lips while the tracks aren't mixed properly or even go together at all etc etc. these women don't really do anything for the progress in a really maledominated business, infact they help the blokes out more than the girls. when it come to production, there is alot of guys who fuel this aswell by helping 'the pretty girl' with their tracks and this helps to fuel the critism that females can't produce and need someone else to do it for them while they are putting on more makeup etc. you have people like tatana that runs her own label and built a moderatly good reputation as a dj while all her tracks are produced by someone else (just to name some: reverb, andy prinz, dj spoke)

Plus 10000000000000000000000000000 %

I also think this applies to other stuff in life too.

___________________
Nothing lasts, nothing lasts, everything is changing into something else. Nothing is wrong, nothing is wrong, everything is on track...

You know, William Blake said... uh, nothing is lost. Nothing is lost and I... I really believe that, we only move on...