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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN you talking to me? feel free to disagree with me and provide evidence

I think he's pulling your chain, you dummy.

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Originally posted by jennypie I think he's pulling your chain, you dummy.

one never can tell with halcyon!

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Originally posted by jennypie I think he's pulling your chain, you dummy.

Think we've found us a legitimate idiot. Poor fool.


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Originally posted by jennypie Oh man, I totally forgot about the beer..thanks for reminding me!

Beer, Nachos and bi-sexual women...........the circle of life is complete.

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Originally posted by smokeape Think we've found us a legitimate idiot. Poor fool. [[[smoke]]]

coming from the middle-aged mental bantam-weight that's quite amusing.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN one never can tell with halcyon!

Amateur!

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Originally posted by donnybrasco And you're not even answering my question about motive...

That's because "motives" ultimately don't matter. Somebody can have the best motives in the world when seeking increased authority to take political action. They can be entirely noble and looking out for the good of the country. But the people who come after them may not be so noble. And that is the danger of powerful governments. If that danger didn't exist, we might as well all live under benevolent dictatorships, since a dictatorship is certainly the most efficient way to run a place.

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Try thinking beyond what you are TOLD to think for once and use some common sense.

Oh, fuck off. You think I picked this up from some website? Get this into your thick fucking head:

(1) I'm not a "conspiracy theorist." I don't think there is a "conspiracy."

(2) I do think there have been many attempts to enlarge the authority of the executive branch, sometimes at the expense of individual liberties. The fucking news provides ample evidence of this, as in the cases I mentioned above. But again, I don't think this is a fucking "conspiracy." I think that the people doing this stuff see themselves as doing it for the good of the country, even if the results haven't been good at all.

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People who see conspiracies everywhere they look do, by definition, lose credibility. ANYONE can claim there's a "conspiracy" afoot within the government.

You're flailing around here. I'm not a fucking "conspiracy theorist." Those damned assumptions again.

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Your basic claim that "This is going to be used against us, the law-abiding citizens!" has no basis in fact or past history.

Quote me. Show me where I said that the ID system would be "used against us."

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And it's not even that revolutionary, this concept of gathering and holding I.D. information! You're all worked up about NOOOOOOTTTHHHHIIINNNGGG!!!!

What I'm "all worked up about" is the fact that some people seem to have a limitless trust in the self-restraint of government officials, when that is very far from warranted.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN coming from the middle-aged mental bantam-weight that's quite amusing.

Yep, and reckon you were kidnapped from an aboriginal mom and placed in a foster home where you were sexually abused by white parents. Guess you miss your roots when they do that digeree do thing.


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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN im just a confused australian

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Originally posted by smokeape Yep, and reckon you were kidnapped from an aboriginal mom and placed in a foster home where you were sexually abused by white parents. Guess you miss your roots when they do that digeree do thing. [[[smoke]]]

lol wtf

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Originally posted by smokeape Yep, and reckon you were kidnapped from an aboriginal mom and placed in a foster home where you were sexually abused by white parents. Guess you miss your roots when they do that digeree do thing. [[[smoke]]]

one would think that by your age you could come up with insults that are even slightly amusing. i feel sorry for your kids

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