i have to say


i saw i:cube deejay this weekend, and he played entirely on cdjs.

it was probably set of the year so far for me, and i went to demf.


the man was beat juggling using the cue buttons, using the cdjs like samplers. he was all over his music like a fat kid with warm chocolate chip cookies


i've never been impressed by an ableton deejay live. maybe i haven't seen a good enough ableton deejay, but that's the honest truth.

So for about the 8 millionth time:


Good DJs are good, bad DJs suck.


Medium used, largely irrelevant.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

I didn't bother reading most of the replies but I'm sure somebody brought up the point of live performance vs. studio session. By that I mean that decks and a mixer are more appropriate for the former, while a digital setup is prepared for the latter. Personally I like a DJ setup. I think mixing is about what's coming out of the speakers, not necessarily the work that goes into them. Therefore I would have to say, why not go for the easiest way to mix? That will ensure better mixing, no? I think that's what the people on the floor or buying the CD care about, no?

But that quote you cited is true, a DJ set better be damn good if it's made entirely with a DJ setup.

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Originally posted by Clovis So for about the 8 millionth time: Good DJs are good, bad DJs suck. Medium used, largely irrelevant.

i think you're mostly right

but there is more dedication involved with playing records than downloading an illegal copy of ableton on your school laptop and playing illegal mp3s


maybe the guy who does that is a sick deejay. more than often i'd say not.

Not only did I buy Ableton Live, every single track I play I have paid for..using MP3s in Ableton doesn't work so well, but I'm sure you already knew that right??

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Originally posted by Gen3r4l1ty If he was a crap dj on a computer, switching to vinyl will not magically make him more competant.

no.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On OOKA-OOKA ME NACHOS ME PRESS KEYS ON COMPUTER GOOD

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Originally posted by nchs09 no.

So switching WILL make him more competant? I'm

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Originally posted by Ray_Chappell ****Breaking News***** The illegal mp3 market is being cornered by Ableton users, not users of CDJ's and other DJ mixing software as previously thought. Additionally, unamed sources have it that this is what obviously makes users of devices like CDJ's and Technics more "sick" and "dedicated." Lastly, this information is "mostly right," but will be contradicted in following sentences. ... More to come.

Point missed.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by Clovis Point missed.

It was sounded funnier in my head. It was dry sarcasm... pointless nonetheless.

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Originally posted by Robert Eugene Not only did I buy Ableton Live, every single track I play I have paid for..using MP3s in Ableton doesn't work so well, but I'm sure you already knew that right??

good for you

that means my post doesn't concern you





it's a lot harder to download a pair of techs


just sayin



ableton automatically converts all your mp3s to wav as well, but i'm sure you already knew that too

For me one of the major points that I have always found to be a let down in Ableton is the fact that I actually like to beat match. I like to work with the existing structure of the music and put my own touch on it that way rather than actually have the ability to throw in ready warped loops etc I prefer to loop on the fly and have a much more tactile/interactive experience (as I see it).
The sole reason for this is that I think it is fun!

Is an Ableton DJ a real DJ? That all depends on what your perception of a DJ is in the first place. There is still a large amount of people who do not see laptop DJs as the real deal.

If you think back to the days when Sasha or Digweed were using vinyl and you heard a seamless set with excellent flow and some great music with it. People, even non DJs were really excited about the fact that they were going to see someone that had great talent as well as have a good night out.

A lot of clubbers are either of the perception that there is less talent involved with a laptop, if that is true or not is beside the point and could be argued back and fourth.

If this point is important or not I guess is also open to discussion, but if you take a person who has only ever been a laptop DJ and ask him to do what I do, the bottom line is that he/she couldn’t without a lot of practice. I could however do what they do pretty easily with much less practice.
The big question that all these threads boil down to is… Is this actually important to those people who go to clubs?

A lot of it also boils down to your relationship with music, when you go clubbing is it background music to your social life or are you really into it and want to get rocked? For the background clubbers I’m sure the format doesn’t matter, but the more dedicated clubbers at least in the UK, still seem to frown upon laptop DJs.

I recently heard a group of girls complain about a DJ using a laptop, so it’s definitely important to a lot of people, and people are more switched on that we give those pilled up, gurn monsters credit for.
The question is, should it be important?

As Clovis stated though, a bad DJ is still a bad DJ regardless of medium, but is a good DJ using a laptop as good as seeing a hard working DJ on CDs or Vinly with skills? Are the two comparable, as they are not actually doing the same thing, other than the end result might sound the same?

Something I have noticed and this may just be down to the laptop DJs I have seen, but the connection between them and the dancefloor always seems much weaker than with the more conventional DJs. The guys who are confident with their DJ skills have a completely different aura about them in a lot of cases that I personally have never witnessed from a guy using a laptop. This could of course be just the way I perceived it.

Just some ramblings

Nem

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