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I'm still trying to figure out what you are even saying here. Are you saying that a thermite reaction could have naturally occurred about 80 stories below where the fires were actually buring?
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Yes. It's definately plausable.
All the materials needed were already existing according to the definition of a thermitic reaction.
By the time they could even come close to finding anything 80 stories below, the thermitic 'blob' (for lack of a better word) had obviously eaten it's way down that far.
Remember, we're talking about a molten mass that had a lot of time to drill down.
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...Newspapers and TV newscasts reported that the twin towers had been designed to withstand a collision with a Boeing 707. The events of September 11th show that this was indeed the case. "However, the World Trade Center was never designed for the massive explosions nor the intense jet fuel fires that came next—a key design omission," stated Eduardo Kausel, another M.I.T. professor of civil and environmental engineering and panel member. So the engineers who designed it to withstand a 707 collision forgot that jets carry fuel? The towers collapsed only after the kerosene fuel fire compromised the integrity of their structural tubes: One WTC lasted for 105 minutes, whereas Two WTC remained standing for 47 minutes. "It was designed for the type of fire you'd expect in an office building—paper, desks, drapes," McNamara said. The aviation fuel fires that broke out burned at a much hotter temperature than the typical contents of an office. "At about 800 degrees Fahrenheit structural steel starts to lose its strength; at 1,500 degrees F, all bets are off as steel members become significantly weakened," he explained. This misleads the reader into thinking that 800ºF to 1500ºF temperatures were reached and sustained, for which there is no evidence. Since jet fuel boils easily and has a low flash point, it would have burned off quickly in the first few minutes after the crashes -- a point granted even by the government's official reports.
Some have raised questions about the degree of fire protection available to guard the structural steel. According to press reports, the original asbestos cementitious fireproofing applied to the steel framework of the north tower and the lower 30 stories of the south were removed after the 1993 terrorist truck bombing.
Others have pointed out the possibility that the aviation fuel fires burned sufficiently hot to melt and ignite the airliners' aluminum airframe structures. Aluminum, a pyrophoric metal, could have added to the conflagrations. Hot molten aluminum, suggests one well-informed correspondent, could have seeped down into the floor systems, doing significant damage. "Aluminum melts into burning 'goblet puddles' that would pool around depressions, [such as] beam joints, service openings in the floor, stair wells and so forth...The goblets are white hot, burning at an estimated 1800 degrees Celsius. At this temperature, the water of hydration in the concrete is vaporized and consumed by the aluminum. This evolves hydrogen gas that burns. Aluminum burning in concrete produces a calcium oxide/silicate slag covered by a white aluminum oxide ash, all of which serve to insulate and contain the aluminum puddle. This keeps the metal hot and burning. If you look at pictures of Iraqi aircraft destroyed in their concrete shelters [during the Persian Gulf war], you will notice a deep imprint of the burned aircraft on the concrete floor...
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You don't think that if someone were planning to take down those buildings they wouldn't bother to use demolition or military grade Thermite? How about Cordite? Whatever it could have been, I doubt that they used the commercial blend. |
Let's say for a second that Thermite was used.
It's not out of the realm of possibility of course (we are talking about terrorists after all) but the real question then is HOW did they land up getting that much onsite without being detected??
I'm assuming of course that quite a bit would have to be used to be effective it would have had to been at least at the level of the plane's impact, therefore it would have to be on the plane...
Do we see where this is going and what's being suggested?
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