listened to both speeches. Was impressed by Mccain pledging his support for obama and not being hostile.


Obama's speech was all business. He was to move forward and start NOW!

I am happy for the US!

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Originally posted by exstasie It is a great piece of history for the African American people and the progress of American society. It is great for the US as it shows how they have progressively changed into being a truly free country.

oh come on

just because a black person got voted in, this means US becomes a 'truly free country'?

and I thought election was suppose to be about voting the best candidate for the job

while I'd have preferred Obama over McCain as the president, this excessive groveling and prasing Obama like he's the next saviour of the world is really getting on my nerves

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Originally posted by chinamon not true. i say "ugh" but i am a tranny.

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Originally posted by kotsy lol colour me retarded

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Originally posted by Yohan and I thought election was supposed to be about voting the best candidate for the job

ditto
who cares what color is his skin, it's all about what he does for the country, period.

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Originally posted by Yohan oh come on just because a black person got voted in, this means US becomes a 'truly free country'? and I thought election was suppose to be about voting the best candidate for the job while I'd have preferred Obama over McCain as the president, this excessive groveling and prasing Obama like he's the next saviour of the world is really getting on my nerves

Less than 150 years ago, blacks were slaves in the US and it was fully accepted and legal and common practice.

And now one is arguably in the most powerful position in the entire world.

If you can't see the significance of that or why people are so, so moved by the outcome of this election then I suggest you read back to understand just how far african americans have come in the US. It's absolutely worth every bit of celebration it gets.

and no one should even speculate that he was voted in because he was black. Without the 47% of the white vote, he wouldn't have won. He was voted in regardless of race, the numbers prove it.

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Originally posted by Skipper Less than 150 years ago, blacks were slaves in the US and it was fully accepted and legal and common practice. And now one is arguably in the most powerful position in the entire world. If you can't see the significance of that or why people are so, so moved by the outcome of this election then I suggest you read back to understand just how far african americans have come in the US. It's absolutely worth every bit of celebration it gets. and no one should even speculate that he was voted in because he was black. Without the 47% of the white vote, he wouldn't have won. He was voted in regardless of race, the numbers prove it.

the fact that obama is black is insignificant to me, because I do not pick a person for a job by their race, religion, culture, etc. (everyone starts equally worthless until proven otherwise )

no seriously. the fact that some people have to celebrate the fact that obama is black shows how far humanity still has to go. (don't get me started on retarded racial conflicts)

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Originally posted by chinamon not true. i say "ugh" but i am a tranny.

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Originally posted by kotsy lol colour me retarded

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Originally posted by Skipper and no one should even speculate that he was voted in because he was black. Without the 47% of the white vote, he wouldn't have won. He was voted in regardless of race, the numbers prove it.

I agree that him being black isn't the reason he was elected but he did receive something like 96% of the black vote....and somehow I don't think he would have had such a high percentage if he was white. I think being a minority running for president did have an affect on the election. In almost every minority group he dominated McCain.

I think another huge factor was voter turn out in this election...Obama appealed to first time voters, younger voters, and minority groups. I believe they came out in record numbers for this election as oppose to previous elections.

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Originally posted by Yohan oh come on just because a black person got voted in, this means US becomes a 'truly free country'? and I thought election was suppose to be about voting the best candidate for the job while I'd have preferred Obama over McCain as the president, this excessive groveling and prasing Obama like he's the next saviour of the world is really getting on my nerves

I understand what you are trying to say.

But if the US wasn't truly a free country then Obama wouldn't have won. He was the best candidate for the position, and it shows how far the US has come.

If Obama had run the same campaign against McCain 15-20 years ago, I don't think he would have ever won. Even if he was the best candidate. That's all i'm trying to say. Just how the American people have progressed.
There are still an abundant of people baby boomers out there who are prejudice and haven't been able to change their mindset about race. Considering they represent the largest demographic out there shows that can embrace change. That's all.

I'm not one of those crazy Obama supporters, and honestly could've cared less who won. I liked McCain. As long as Bush is out of office is that is important.

Personally, I don't think Obama will be able to do much in office. He has no money from the previous Bush government and won't be able to deliver on many of his promises. Sure things may change overtime, but I don't htink there will be anywhere near as much change as some may think.

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced I think another huge factor was voter turn out in this election...Obama appealed to first time voters, younger voters, and minority groups. I believe they came out in record numbers for this election as oppose to previous elections.

That doesn't have anything to do with race.

And as for the black vote, I can understand that - african americans identify with him, and think their needs will not be ignored. That makes him the best candidate because of their perspective.

The best candidate is not an objective measure - everyone has different priorities and perspectives based on their culture, race, social status etc. You can't say that blacks voted Obama because he was black - and even if they did, a black presidential candidate could bring to the table a set of priorities that qualifies him as the "best candidate" in their eyes. I doubt too many people heavily agreed with McCain but voted Obama because he was black (actually's he's half white, but I digress...) - give the african american people some credit, they can figure out who to vote for based on the real issues and not just vote for the person who looks like them.

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Originally posted by Skipper I wasn't so moved by the american reaction, but Kenya declared today a national holiday, Australia drew huge crowds to watch and celebrate the outcome...the world reaction has been more than I expected. Regardless of the red tape in the white house, you can't deny how Obama has brought so much hope to the American people, black or white. America is in bad shape right now and how people have reacted is really touching.

Ya not just America either.
All the news over here are the world's celebratory and joyous reaction.
From Northern Europe to Africa to Asia to down under.
This is a win for the WORLD

The story about that 106 year old woman was top notch.

Imagine, you are born in 1902. And yesterday you voted on a fucking touch screen. blows my mind. two world wars, the great depression, assasination of kennedy and martin luther king, the rise of computers and the internet.....so on and so on.

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Originally posted by TheVrk This is a win for the WORLD

we'll see how much bitching will happen in 4 yrs

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Originally posted by chinamon not true. i say "ugh" but i am a tranny.

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Originally posted by kotsy lol colour me retarded

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Originally posted by RoBDaWG YEAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOBAMA!!!! seriously for the first time in 8 years i think i'm proud of my country!

i dont get it, many americans forget the fact that they RE (fucking ) ELECTED BUSH after 4 year??? So i think its dumb people are throwing around 8 years around even tho the mofo got voted in again after 4 years??

People don't think about obvious shit, like its not a fluke the guy was there for 8 years man..

quit being a dumb amurican