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kr00t0n
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Registered: Feb 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
see my post... it's not love so much as self-worth.

men cheat when they feel as though they are under-valued/under appreciated.


Maybe down to the limited amount of time we have where we are able to deliver world-rocking performances, hehe


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squirrelly
The Phun Nun



Registered: Oct 2003
Location: In the Shower

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
No, not in that way. Men need sex in order to feel that they are loved (on a subconscious level).

So basically, when you don't put out for your man, on some deeper level he thinks you don't love him.


I dunno, I've read it in a few places.


This is true, and I also think it is a lot of reasons why people cheat. I.E. if your S.O.'s sex drive starts to kind of fade away, and then fades off to zero, then YOU start feeling like you're not attractive, they don't want you, etc., and then you're left vulnerable and needy and more inept to cheating.

although the s.o. not being interested anymore, might be a sign of THEM cheating too.

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Moral Hazard
Oppressing the 99%



Registered: Mar 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by squirrelly
although the s.o. not being interested anymore, might be a sign of THEM cheating too.


Or maybe they're just a frigid bitch!
/hostility


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you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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squirrelly
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I was actually talking about the man losing interest because he's too busy fucking other girls, jackass.

/bitterness

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quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Or maybe they're just a frigid bitch!
/married


fixed

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Moral Hazard
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quote:
Originally posted by squirrelly
I was actually talking about the man losing interest because he's too busy fucking other girls, jackass.

/bitterness


Maybe he wouldn't be fucking other girls if you weren't such a frigid bitch!
/projection


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you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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kr00t0n
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quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Maybe he wouldn't be fucking other girls if you weren't such a frigid bitch!
/projection


Maybe he wouldn't be fucking fridges if you weren't such a unexpected beehive!

/surreal bandwagon jumping


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squirrelly
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quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Maybe he wouldn't be fucking other girls if you weren't such a frigid bitch!
/projection


Butttttttttt butttttttttt

I'm not a frigid bitch?



















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MrJiveBoJingles
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quote:
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Shut the fuck up, Craig. Everyone knows how you get down:




Married to the Sea.

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Lira
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I think the interesting debate here is not regarding infidelity itself, but why some people cheated on their partners while others haven't. We could have at least four groups here: deterministic cheaters, deterministic non-cheaters, non-deterministic cheaters, and non-deterministic non-cheaters. Not surprisingly two groups are disproportionately bigger than the rest.

Most of those who have cheated, on the one hand, seem to give infidelity a quasi-deterministic account: they cheated because the circumstances were such and such, and that lead them to the dreadful act. It feels almost as if it were unavoidable, or fated: if we took them back in time, erased their memory, and they found themselves in the same situation, the turnout would be absolutely the same. It's almost as if you had to err if everything led you to that decision.

Non-cheaters, however, seem to value free-will a lot more: to most of them, cheaters could have (and should have) acted differently. Except, maybe, for those who acknowledge how powerful the circumstances can be, as they expect their behaviour to have changed because of their previous mistakes. In that sense, the learnt lesson is the only variable that changed, and should be powerful enough to avoid the recurrence of this event.

Here's what's left to ask ourselves: Does belief in free-will really make us (or give us the impression that we're) more independent, or do cheaters rationalise their act simply because it's too heavy a burden, but they don't analyse life in general that way? Can determinism potentially lead to immorality?

Personally, I've refrained from cheating in the past. My relationship was in crisis, I met this wonderful girl who fancied me, became somewhat infatuated with her, and I almost made out with her in a party as she kept looking for my attention - all I needed was to simply hug her back, which I didn't. Instead, I just got up and started dancing to drum'n'bass, which must've puzzled her

Are my libertarian ideals to blame for my decision not to cheat? (Can I use blame in a positive context?). Or else, was it simply the fact that I love fast-paced music, which would certainly deflate the significance of my choice?


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kr00t0n
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quote:
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Are my libertarian ideals to blame for my decision not to cheat? (Can I use blame in a positive context?). Or else, was it simply the fact that I love fast-paced music, which would certainly deflate the significance of my choice?



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Lira
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quote:
Originally posted by kr00t0n

CAN'T DIESELBOY HAVE SAVED MY LIFE!?


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