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Originally posted by nefardec not preference, just diversity of taste. yeah definitely, that's the case I'm making. and if anyone defends the mid nineties prog it's probably from nostalgia.

Exactly. Assuming that he/she generally likes the sounds' characteristics in the first place (e.g. the "epicness"), he/she likes more the older epic sound mainly because of


-Nostalgia


-He/She values it more because it is older

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Originally posted by pwnage1 Still in the mid nineties prog there was considerably less shit.

You were 2.

"Anything with a lot of melody and open emotion is basically equivalent to the bombastic epic trance of today. Therefore if you defend music that has a lot of melody and emotion you must be defending it out of mere nostalgia, not because it actually offers something that epic trance doesn't."

^ Looks to be the road this thread is heading down.

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Originally posted by creon444 This is trance: This is NOT trance:

Is this Trance!?






Because it is from the famous classic trance due Jam and Spoon...


This?





Because they say its trance...


This modern production?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles "Anything with a lot of melody and open emotion is basically equivalent to the bombastic epic trance of today. Therefore if you defend music that has a lot of melody and emotion you must be defending it out of mere nostalgia, not because it actually offers something that epic trance doesn't." ^ Looks to be the road this thread is heading down.

It did along time ago. People now are just spinning the same ideas and making up meaningless philosophies of things already known and already said.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles "Anything with a lot of melody and open emotion is basically equivalent to the bombastic epic trance of today. Therefore if you defend music that has a lot of melody and emotion you must be defending it out of mere nostalgia, not because it actually offers something that epic trance doesn't." ^ Looks to be the road this thread is heading down.

Lol, yeah kind of. I am starting to think when people say complex emotions for music they mean emotionless.

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Originally posted by enydo What if someone just likes it?

there's nothing wrong with liking something.


i'm only inquiring into /why/ one likes something.

i don't believe there's a such thing as "just" liking something

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Music can be "about the melodies" without reusing the same structure and same few sounds over and over again. I think the main problem that people with mainstream trance is that its producers have chosen to work with such a limited palette in every way -- emotionally, sonically, and structurally. There's nothing wrong with a supersaw or twinkly square lead in itself, or with a "summery nostalgia" or "uplifting" kind of melody, or even with an occasional big breakdown. But when those became basically the only things on offer within a genre, it gets awfully boring...

Especially when you go and watch a DJ and you realise that all you're listening to is random bits of filler between 2 minute long breakdowns and bass drive, for hours.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles "Anything with a lot of melody and open emotion is basically equivalent to the bombastic epic trance of today. Therefore if you defend music that has a lot of melody and emotion you must be defending it out of mere nostalgia, not because it actually offers something that epic trance doesn't." ^ Looks to be the road this thread is heading down.

jivebo,

the problem is defining "a lot of emotion"

Emotion is a perception of one person and is immeasurable.