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| quote: | Originally posted by vikernes
I'm sorry, but I will have to call bullshit on that guy. It's a personal preference to mix against a compressor I guess, not something you advise people to do through a "tutorial video". Half way into mixing he changed the threshold and the ratio (I think) on the compressor (on the master bus), because he didn't like the sound. No shit. That's the reason you don't put a compressor there at the mixing stage. So after he did that, the levels on the tracks got screwed up. No shit #2.
Again, I have no problem if some people do it that way, it's just that I've never heard someone do that before I saw him and I thought this is somewhat of a "standard" in EDM.
Also, I think that guy is clueless. At one point in the video he's talking about the loudness wars and then goes to say something like - and I0'm not shitting you -> "I don't know why people want their mixes so loud. If a track isn't loud enough you just turn up the gain on the mixer, that's why it's there." I'm not kidding you, I even think this is the exact quote he says. After I heard that I just scrolled through the video quickly just to end it.
Also he had clipping on almost every track in his mix. He did say something like how he doesn't care about "looking" at music, rather hearing it. So he says if he doesn't hear the signal getting clipped he doesn't bother lowering the volume. Which I guess isn't such a bad idea since every trance track I checked clips at least 10 times through the track - and I'm talking the likes of Tiesto, Armin etc... But he had levels peaking at something like 2.7db on the master or something most of the time. Even if you don't hear it, that might cause problems later (at least) at the mastering stage.
So a followup; I also get some clipping on the master in my tracks - mostly only when the kick hits in - and I'm not talking 2.7db here. As I said, I checked a lot of tracks from professional DJs/producers and almost every track has clipping in it. So should I worry about this if I can't hear it or just leave it?
AFAIK there should never be clipping on individual tracks, but it's kinda OK on the master? That's what I heard... |
so what if channels clip? u have 32bit floating point internal processing bitdepth whats the problem? if your master clips but it sounds exactly like you want it to... lower the fucking volume on the master. Duh?
Its ok on the master? No, clipping is NOT ok on the master.. lol thats where its absolutely not ok... U say u checked a lot of tracks from professional DJs/producers and almost every track has clipping in it? I assume u checked mp3 files for the most part? U are aware the soundwaves of a track will be altered when u convert it to mp3 etc, unless you really know how to do the conversion without chance of introducing inter-sample clipping? Thats probably why u saw clipping in so many tracks. Because u checked mp3 files.
Last edited by lenieNt Force on Feb-24-2009 at 15:24
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