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Originally posted by DigiNut Professionalism is a vague and subjective term. For some businesses, it means every employee must wear a suit and tie. For others it just involves remembering to put your pants on in the morning. ...I think you need to loosen up. You're adopting an authoritarian view of professionalism based on your own personal experience and circumstances when in reality the concept tends to be quite malleable.

Hah. I think your views on professionalism have shifted since our last discussion.

In any event, I think ChemEnhanced raises a good point--frankly the only one worth addressing--that is:

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced It opens up a can of worms that shouldn't be opened. If you start allowing pets at work then why not allow children and family members at the work place. IMO, personal life and business life should be kept seperate,

As far as I can tell nobody has adequately addressed this point.

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Originally posted by DigiNut We have one or two employees who've brought their kids in the afternoon because they had to leave school early. Maybe somebody's dog-sitter was out of town or had a prior engagement; it's the same sort of thing. People's personal lives will leak into their professional lives. You can't avoid this. Emergencies happen, their friends are all busy at work and can't take care of it, and other types of personal problems can only be dealt with during normal business hours, for obvious reasons.

Point taken. However, I don't think you and ChemEnhanced are actually in disagreement here. The issue is not about unavoidable situations which might force an employee to come to work with his or her pet/child--this sort of thing is to be expected--it is rather more generally about having the freedom and luxury to bring your kids and/or pets to work when you can very well make arrangements for them to be taken care of outside the office.

Sure work and personal lives bleed together, particularly when you have children - but you don't bring your kid to a meeting. You miss the meeting and go home with them.

Kids and pets are an avoidable distraction in the workplace, and on an irregular basis I'd say both are fine (kids moreso, pets less - since there is no excuse for having to bring a pet to the office outside of it being a fun program offered by the employer). but your workplace is NOT a daycare - mat leave moms bringing babies in for a visit is one thing, having a toddler run around while you're at your desk taking a conference call is another.

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew shouldn't she be on maternity leave for a year?

The moms bring their babies while on mat leave, and even if you don't know the new mom all that well, you'd still be regarded as an ass if you stayed at your desk working.

As for my peeve, the same applies if you replace 'mutt/doggie' in my previous post with 'baby'

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Originally posted by Abercrombie If the mutts stay quiet, that's fine. I would have a thing with my cubicle neighbours if I hear "Awww isn't my pookie wookie fuzz wuzzy little bear doggie hungy for a snackie snackie? *crunch* *crunch* *crunch*, isn't that good boy, yessie wessie, yum yum yum" all day.

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Originally posted by Frenchie but if you don't feel comfortable leaving your baby with a sitter or don't feel the need to pay 70$ a day for a daycare...I guess that's what you do.

and what about your co-workers that have to deal with a baby 8 hours a day? that's just plain disrespectful
nevermind the baby itself won't be enjoying such an environment

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That's why I mentioned previously that if you have your own office that is shut off by a door ..you're most likely to have privacy and there for not necessarily disrupting others as much.
I still think you shouldn't bring pets or children to work but I suppose desperate times call for desperate measures?

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Originally posted by Frenchie That's why I mentioned previously that if you have your own office that is shut off by a door ..you're most likely to have privacy and there for not necessarily disrupting others as much. I still think you shouldn't bring pets or children to work but I suppose desperate times call for desperate measures?

ah no I was thinking more of an open concept office.. that would be very distracting

yeah def - if it's an emergency, no biggie
but making a habbit out of it - not so good

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What if the breed is considered a "working dog"?!?

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker What if the breed is considered a "working dog"?!?

If it can type my reports for me then I guess it can come to work.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker What if the breed is considered a "working dog"?!?

Is that like a 'working girl'? If so, we need more of those around here.

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If the army gets to bring their dog to work (via helicopter!!!), then so should I.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker If the army gets to bring their dog to work (via helicopter!!!), then so should I.

Lol! Love the Doggles

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