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tubularbills
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| quote: | Originally posted by matty
The honours degree isn't a bad idea if you're intending on pursuing a Masters or a Doctorate. As far as I know, the only difference is that an Honours requires you to complete an Undergrad thesis. All in all, its a bonus to have published something as an Undergrad and its great practice for writing a MSc/PhD thesis. That being said, i didn't bother with it! |
oh, and i think maybe they get a different colored tassel or something.
i don't know - i did a regular program, and i still had to do a Thesis. ISU was one of like 3 schools in the country that required it for a meteorology degree. it was one of the reasons why i did my degree in 5 years, not 4 -> so when i was taking thesis class, i was also taking bowling, racquetball, and my ROTC stuff and that was it. haha.
i guess the Honors program would be good for getting into schools for higher education. looking at high school; i took honors math classes, and the guys who tok the regular ones still had no problems getting into any state school, really. lol. 
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Apr-20-2009 00:55
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Boomer187
Spicy Hotdog

Registered: Aug 2001
Location: USA
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| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
For this to succeed, the sample needs to be large, i.e 1000 people. It works in these cases. I get marked on bell curves at the moment and it's complete and utter bullshit in a class of 25 people. You should be marked on your own merits and whether your work is of good standard, not whether someone's is better than yours.
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1000 sample size my ass, your degree is not in stats I assume 
For any kind of standardized test validation yes 1000 is a minimum, but for a college test that is assessing knowledge of 3 or 4 chapters in a text book, 25 is plenty to weed out the poor questions, which is all a curve is meant to correct for.
Each student is exposed to a certain curriculum, and we assume a certain percentage of students actually understand the material (especially the highest scorer). However poor questions are poor questions, and no matter how much anyone knows the material, they will get these questions wrong. So the curve corrects for these.
Although I never graded on a curve when I taught. I did shift my grading scale when I taught Psy 101 so that 85%+ = A, 75+ = B etc... I still failed a fair number of students.
For me its an AS in Technical drafting and tool design, BS in Psychology, MA in Experimental Psy...working on PhD.
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Apr-20-2009 00:58
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Domesticated
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| quote: | Originally posted by Ania_xox
In your post, the word "university" is being used to modify the word "system", and does not take a capital "u" as it is not a proper noun. |
You: five years at university to identify a proper noun.
Me: quit a property degree after a mere six months but still managed to hand you your fat arse on a plate.
Last edited by Domesticated on Apr-20-2009 at 01:16
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Apr-20-2009 01:01
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Domesticated
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| quote: | Originally posted by Boomer187
For any kind of standardized test validation yes 1000 is a minimum, but for a college test that is assessing knowledge of 3 or 4 chapters in a text book, 25 is plenty to weed out the poor questions, which is all a curve is meant to correct for. |
No, see this is the problem.
If you assess a maths class on 3-4 chapters of a book by setting them 50 questions, THEY EITHER KNOW THE MATERIAL OR THEY DON'T, it's ridiculous to mark on a bell curve. If you're a shit teacher and no one knows the material, someone is still going to get an A+, just for being the best, even though their actual abilities are rather poor.
| quote: | Originally posted by Boomer187
Each student is exposed to a certain curriculum, and we assume a certain percentage of students actually understand the material (especially the highest scorer). However poor questions are poor questions, and no matter how much anyone knows the material, they will get these questions wrong. So the curve corrects for these. |
This comes down to a matter of opinion and I'm not saying you're wrong, but I think this is a flawed way to think. Whoever sets the questions should be setting them properly, not setting questions which are fundamentally flawed. By your reasoning it would be impossible for anyone to get 100% on a test, regardless of how easy it is.
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Apr-20-2009 01:05
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Domesticated
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| quote: | Originally posted by Ania_xox
Also combining my Translation degree with Business Communication because I realized I have no business savvy whatsoever. |
By the way, this is what's hilarious about university. People go there to learn "management", "marketing" or any other number of bullshit things that basically can't be taught.
I think uni is very valuable, but in general society is far too focussed on education and pieces of paper with your name on them rather than workplace training and genuine ability.
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Apr-20-2009 01:27
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