What sort of files do you want to use for this? Do you want a full track with drums and everything? Because most tracks will have at least a few 16 bit elements in them...

I honestly don't like threads like this. It just seems like people try to cut corners at every turn. My philosophy is, adhere to the highest quality you can and stick to it.

If you adhere to high quality then those things will add up and you're tracks will sound better. I don't think top producers debate 16 vs 24 bit because if you can use 24 then why not?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles What sort of files do you want to use for this? Do you want a full track with drums and everything? Because most tracks will have at least a few 16 bit elements in them...

I'm really not out to prove anybody right or wrong. The goal of this thread is not to create a dick measuring contest. I wanted peoples opinions on what I discussed in the original post. Nothing more, nothing less. If you want to post some samples, go for it, but that's not really the point of the discussion.

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Originally posted by coroknight I honestly don't like threads like this. It just seems like people try to cut corners at every turn. My philosophy is, adhere to the highest quality you can and stick to it. If you adhere to high quality then those things will add up and you're tracks will sound better. I don't think top producers debate 16 vs 24 bit because if you can use 24 then why not?

This has zero to do with cutting corners. I don't even see how this could be a corner cutter. The questions I asked are not rocket science, nor is the topic at hand. I'm baffled at some of the responses this thread has generated.

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Originally posted by DjStephenWiley There we go. Focusing on the audible side of things. As for encoding mp3's at 24bit, the answer is no. As I said in the original post, 99.9% of stuff that is going through peoples ears is 16bits. The point of the thread is to gather opinions on the use of 24 bit samples vs. 16 bit samples, as well as how they sound when filtered down to mp3. Because of various production qualities, and the fact that the changes are extremely subtle, you can only really do comparisons using the exact same source (which you did) You said you couldn't hear the difference when filtered down to mp3. Could you tell the difference when working with them? Any positive/negative stories involving projects that used a lot of 24 bit samples that were filtered to 16bit and then mp3?

No i couldnt tell the difference before i converted them to mp3 either. Ill post some loops up later, all 24 bit samples from NI Synthetic Drums, ill convert some 24 bit directly to mp3, then ill render same loops as 16 bit, then convert them to mp3.

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Originally posted by evo8 The more mixes i do the more i realise that half of the shit thats discussed on the various messageboards isnt really that important when it comes to making a decent track.

'Nuff said

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Originally posted by Blahzaay 'Nuff said

Right. I don't see where anybody made any argument contrary to that though?????

This forum discusses fairly specific topics for a huge array of music related stuff. Think of music as a 1,000 piece puzzle, and the topics we have here and discuss are one piece of that puzzle and you don't know where that piece goes in the puzzle. Unless you've got a solid grasp on everything (you saw the puzzle before it was broken down!) you're likely wasting your time.

The forums can be helpful though. You just have to be disciplined and look at subjective and objective things differently. Not every post on this forum is made so you can be the next Tiesticle.

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lol

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syn drums 16bit
syn drums 24bit
syn drums X

2 syn drums 16bit
2 syn drums 24bit
2 syn drums X

3 syn drums 16bit
3 syn drums 24bit
3 syn drums X

To whom it may concern - identify the original bitdepth of track X in each of the above

edit: bitdepth not bitrate!!!

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Last edited by evo8 on Aug-31-2009 at 15:17

It's bitdepth, not bitrate.

Bitrate is the ammount of bits processed per X (per second for instance) while bitdepth is the ammount of bits per sample.

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again its a worthless thread. what do u think is best when it comes to audio, 50w amps, or 80w amps? no tech specs allowed.

80w have more power and can probably get louder. So Id go with those.

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