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SYSTEM-J
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quote:
Originally posted by lenazi
ahhh i might have praised nirvana (not sure do not feel like re reading all of this thread), but the major statement that i made is that they were the flagship band of grunge.


Not Nirvana specifically but Dave Grohl, and the reason you're arguing is because you're trying to say Grohl is different to Kings Of Leon because he pioneered something instead of copying it.

When really, Grohl was merely the second drummer in a band who took an existing sound and sold a lot of records, thus making it more popular than it had been previously. The difference between Nirvana and Kings Of Leon is not so much that Nirvana were more original, but that more people thought Nirvana were original.

A pretty shitty justification if you ask me.


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Old Post Sep-18-2009 22:10  England
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maybe my arguing is not up to snuff, but grohl does posses "bowiesque" qualities, from going to second drummer, to front man, to producer, to successful a&r.

not many have that drive and ability to reach success while not being a 1 dimensional or "one trick pony" artist if you will.

you can shoot down my flaws in arguing as i am not a lawyer by any means, but i know the man has done more in music than many "bigger" than him.

not more than bowie though

what happened to the bass player from nirvana? i think he served me coffee at starbucks this morning.


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No, but I also don't drink out of a fucking sippy-cup you goddamned Appalachian.

Old Post Sep-18-2009 22:14  Kazakhstan
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SYSTEM-J
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There's a difference between being talented and being original. The problem with the Kings Of Leon is not that they're less original than the Foo Fighters or whoever else they sound like. The problem is they write crappier songs.


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if you check their album they did not write all of it. sure it is normal in this day and age, but the kings of leon success is as manufactured as the backstreet boys.

they just happened to do a few good indie songs before some record executive decided to give them an extra push.


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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
No, but I also don't drink out of a fucking sippy-cup you goddamned Appalachian.

Old Post Sep-18-2009 22:19  Kazakhstan
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and by extra push i hope you know i mean $$$.

payola.


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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
No, but I also don't drink out of a fucking sippy-cup you goddamned Appalachian.

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same goes for nirvana though


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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
No, but I also don't drink out of a fucking sippy-cup you goddamned Appalachian.

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People put way too much emphasis, especially on TA, on shit having to sound original. If it sounds original but it's a load of gash, what's the point? Something can sound just like other records, but if it's made for the right reasons in the right way it can still be a great song.

As The KLF put it:

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So why don’t all songs sound the same? Why are some artists great, write dozens of classics that move you to tears, say it like it’s never been said before, make you laugh, dance, blow your mind, fall in love, take to the streets and riot? Well, it’s because although the chords, notes, harmonies, beats and words have all been used before their own soul shines through; their personality demands attention. This doesn’t just come via the great vocalist or virtuoso instrumentalist. The Techno sound of Detroit, the most totally linear programmed music ever, lacking any human musicianship in its execution reeks of sweat, sex and desire. The creators of that music just press a few buttons and out comes - a million years of pain and lust.


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the point of the thread was not exactly that they had to sound different, but that they were among the worst shows that i have ever seen.


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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
No, but I also don't drink out of a fucking sippy-cup you goddamned Appalachian.

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quote:
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the point of the thread was not exactly that they had to sound different, but that they were among the worst shows that i have ever seen.


I haven't seen them live, but I wouldn't really disagree: I think they make some of the most soulless, anonymous, wallpaper rock around, to the extent I find it difficult to muster up any hatred for such a dull band.

My point is you're inviting a messy argument by attacking them for being generic. They're a fucking stadium rock band, you may as well attack techno for being too repetitive.


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Old Post Sep-18-2009 22:35  England
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techno is not repetive because i have a flanger in atomix dj.

the hatred was wasting 3 hours of my life and making a drunk thread.


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quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
No, but I also don't drink out of a fucking sippy-cup you goddamned Appalachian.

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the ******s voice makes me wanna kill a puppy


no, seriously I haven't heard a voice that ear grating in a while.

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quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Is it sad that I have no idea who this band is and as far as I know have never heard any songs by them?


So, what else is new?

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Lord
and foo fighters is pretty much like stone temple pilots... please dude. give me a break. welcome to globalized marketing.

uniqueness and originality is very subjective these days.

btw, stone temple pilots is pretty much like pearl jam and pearl jam is pretty much like temple of the dog, etc.


You, sir, are an idiot.

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