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Originally posted by Clovis Wow this guy is a jobber. Scout for universal records? Why didn't you hook yourself up?

A jobber for defending someone. Whatever dude. Because I don't work that way.

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Originally posted by bas (hard to remember 8+ years of gigs around here). Where do you live again? Congrats on being a "scout for Universal Records", something that has absolutely no bearing on me or the music I play.

First question:
8 Years. to my 21/2 years, after a 13 year absence. Is this your full time job? DJing isn't my full time gig. Mixing and recording bands is. I have a sound company which I deal with on a daily basis. Most of the time I'm never home. That being said, I don't have the opportunity to play out as much, and when I do, if they want me to spin a certain way, then that's what I have to do.

Second question:
Long Beach.

Third question:
The reason I brought this to attention is because many folks like to bullshit where they work/worked.

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Originally posted by djkatmaus First question: 8 Years. to my 21/2 years, after a 13 year absence. Is this your full time job? DJing isn't my full time gig. Mixing and recording bands is. I have a sound company which I deal with on a daily basis. Most of the time I'm never home. That being said, I don't have the opportunity to play out as much, and when I do, if they want me to spin a certain way, then that's what I have to do. Second question: Long Beach. Third question: The reason I brought this to attention is because many folks like to bullshit where they work/worked.

Unfortunately not my full time job, not yet anyway...I'd love to get more into studio engineering.

Anyway, sorry I got a little upset there. Myself, as well as my friends (and tons of other LA djs/promoters), have worked hard over the past few years to get Los Angeles out of the stigma you're talking about (nothing but shite clubs and hip hop etc), and really bring us all to the forefront of dance music again. And like I said, we're doing a fucking great job at it

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Originally posted by bas Unfortunately not my full time job, not yet anyway...I'd love to get more into studio engineering. Anyway, sorry I got a little upset there. Myself, as well as my friends (and tons of other LA djs/promoters), have worked hard over the past few years to get Los Angeles out of the stigma you're talking about (nothing but shite clubs and hip hop etc), and really bring us all to the forefront of dance music again. And like I said, we're doing a fucking great job at it

Sorry I got hot too. I should've stayed chill and I didn't. This is exactly the samething I'm working on. To break the Southern California area of its Hip Hop dominance. The reason I brought up Long Beach is because, Long Beach has been my focus since 07. I know I should focus on LA too, but my confidence level isn't quite there. Yet. Anywho, we have nothing for OUR type of music here. Every club is Hip Hop, and when they do give you a free night, they want you to play the mainstream stuff. You either have to travel to LA or San Francisco to really experience it. I'm not trying to fight you guys, or anything of that nature. Maybe I should've been a little more forward on my background before I posted.

I'm still new to the EDM world, and I'm trying to find my own style within the EDM community. Unfortunately, I'm on my own. All my DJ friends are Hip Hop guys, and always give me crap for what I play, so not much help there.

Studio engineering is great. Far much easier and laid back than live sound. For the most part, live sound is my gig. I don't do much studio gigs anymore.

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Originally posted by djkatmaus Sorry I got hot too. I should've stayed chill and I didn't. This is exactly the samething I'm working on. To break the Southern California area of its Hip Hop dominance. The reason I brought up Long Beach is because, Long Beach has been my focus since 07. I know I should focus on LA too, but my confidence level isn't quite there. Yet. Anywho, we have nothing for OUR type of music here. Every club is Hip Hop, and when they do give you a free night, they want you to play the mainstream stuff. You either have to travel to LA or San Francisco to really experience it. I'm not trying to fight you guys, or anything of that nature. Maybe I should've been a little more forward on my background before I posted. I'm still new to the EDM world, and I'm trying to find my own style within the EDM community. Unfortunately, I'm on my own. All my DJ friends are Hip Hop guys, and always give me crap for what I play, so not much help there. Studio engineering is great. Far much easier and laid back than live sound. For the most part, live sound is my gig. I don't do much studio gigs anymore.

Pfft...fuck Long Beach lol

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We all DJ what we want to/have to for a million different reasons, clearly. Bottom line, I don't care how many gigs you've had or even if you're only a bedroom DJ, no one person is better than another to say what you should be playing or how you should be playing it or for what reasons, and that's what got this thread off the deep end in the first place.

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Originally posted by bas Pfft...fuck Long Beach lol

Yeah I know, but it's fun to poke at the Hip Hop guys down here. Especially at my DJ friends. lol.

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Originally posted by miamitranceman We all DJ what we want to/have to for a million different reasons, clearly. Bottom line, I don't care how many gigs you've had or even if you're only a bedroom DJ, no one person is better than another to say what you should be playing or how you should be playing it or for what reasons, and that's what got this thread off the deep end in the first place.

Honestly, the only person you should be DJing for, at the heart, is yourself.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by woscar LOL mfitterer, who's coming up with the assclown arguments? I don't like it because it doesn't appeal to me in any way anymore. It's really that simple.

Whatever makes you sleep at night. Your words say otherwise.

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Originally posted by Sadface That's ridiculous. He obviously enjoys Djing and furthermore he clearly understands his role as a DJ. He realizes that the party is not about him but about the kids in the club. They're not going out to indulge his personal tastes, they're there to enjoy themselves. It's his job to make sure they like the music, and if he can pull that off and enjoy himself in the process I don't see anything wrong.

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Understands his role as a dj? That thought process is what makes it so hard for edm to gain traction globally. It's not the d's role to be a disposable pawn that sucks cock for 200 bucks.

Your idea of a dj is extremely flawed and I now understand why currently the market is so overinflated with shat ass untalented people trying to make a quick buck and to get laid.

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Originally posted by djkatmaus First, before you can tell a promoter what's up, you need to be someone, have a name first.

WRONG

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Originally posted by djkatmaus Only people I know that have that type of power are the ones you criticize. i.e. Tiesto, Armin Van Buuren, Oakenfold, David Guetta, etc. I'm not at that level. I've done much promoting in my life and the way your talking I would never hire you. Second, you don't know Los Angeles do ya. Read my post again, HIP HOP capital of the world. Trance music is fly shit here bro. Trust me.

First of all those guys got the power you're referring to by breaking molds not playing what the promoters/clubs tell them to. Aside from that it all comes down to business sense; which 99% of anyone in the industry is clueless about.

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Originally posted by djkatmaus Those are rules, plan and simple. This is LA bro, not Oregon. .

Maybe you missed my statement that trance is not accepted at all here. So I'm in the same spot you THINK you're in. But difference is i'm smart enough to realize how to fix the problem; while you obviously are much more content playing on the patio and bitching.

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Originally posted by djkatmaus Second, Trance is not an American music style. You need to educate the people first. The music which they're influenced or are slowly getting into is the Deadmau5, Tiesto, Oakenfold stuff. Why do you think we spin this stuff. It's a new style to them. I have a lot friends who are getting into EDM, and boycotting Hip Hop. Would you like to guess what music they're listening too?

A few years ago that thought process may have been true but now it's very far from the case. You spin that stuff because you don't know who the talented producers are They listen to Tiesto et all; because he markets his brand better than anyone else to the USA.

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Originally posted by djkatmaus It's easier for me to introduce a true LA Hip Hop dude to Tiesto music then it would be with someone like Super 8.

First of all; being easier doesn't always make it the best option; in fact usually it's the opposite. Second of all it's not a dj's job to decide who gets introduced and who doesn't to edm. Its the job of a dj to play the music they like and believe in to the people who enjoy that music. New listeners will come over time if you had a clue. I started posting sets last year and at first I was only getting 5-6 downloads and now I have been getting between 75-100 per episode of my mix series. You have to understand growth takes time. Playing what everyone else plays makes you a pawn and expendable. But it sounds like you're ok with that.

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Originally posted by djkatmaus Trust me, with the attitude you have, you will not get far simply because what are you bringing to the table? Do you simply spin records, are you an artist, do you write your own stuff? If your nothing more than a DJ, and you came here with that attitude, have fun bagging groceries. If you don't want to follow the owner and promoters requirements, they'll find someone else. We have thousands of DJ's in LA, they will find someone in a matter of minutes. You're nothing to them.

You obviously don't know/understand that I am not just a dj but a top flight producer and also do a good bit of mastering for people as well as my own stuff. But even if I didn't have these other talents your approach is wrong.

The best way I can get you to understand is by comparing promoters to women. You can worship them and do everything they want and have a small amount of success or you can be ultra picky and have a great deal of success working with people who want to work with you because they enjoy your music; not because you give a great blowjob and like to eat their ass

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Originally posted by djkatmaus Lastly, take a look at the DJ Charts. Why is it the ones you dislike are always in the top 10? Either they're doing something right or they don't have balls.

Or it's because they market themselves better than everyone else. This is a business. Act like it or gtfo.

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Originally posted by djkatmaus Once again I will state. If someone asks me to spin 3 hours of Tiesto music only, I will do that, no questions asked. His music kicks ass and whenever I play his stuff, or the other stuff you don't like, the dance floor is packed and the bar is making money. And I have a gig to comeback too, because I gave them what they want. You have to get out of that dream dj booth called the bedroom sometime my friend.

And you wonder why you're having problems. Lmao