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woscar
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Guatemala, Guatemala

quote:
Originally posted by bas
I'm with System-J, have some pride ffs

At least wait until your country crashes out before you jump ship


In case you haven't noticed, Guatemala is ranked # 115 in the world.

I'm not jumping ship, I'm just cheering for a football style of play that I like and enjoy watching to prevail over the others. Another team that I like is Netherlands, for example.


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bas
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Registered: Jul 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by woscar
In case you haven't noticed, Guatemala is ranked # 115 in the world.

Exactly. No World Cup for you


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woscar
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Exactly. No World Cup for you




The big question here is why you have a signature that says "United" 3 times.


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digitalbreach
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Registered: Oct 2002
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Originally posted by Lira



Well, you watch the match and support the team. If the team you support wins, good. There isn't much more to it



Lira your a gentleman and a scholar. kudos



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too early..?


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Registered: Jan 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by woscar


The big question here is why you have a signature that says "United" 3 times.



he needs a team to root for in the Champions League next season


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pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:
Originally posted by bas
I'm with System-J, have some pride ffs

At least wait until your country crashes out before you jump ship


How can I jump from a ship I was never on in the first place?


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bas
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Registered: Jul 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
How can I jump from a ship I was never on in the first place?

I wasn't referring to you Aren't you English anyway or is that just Stu?

quote:
Originally posted by woscar


The big question here is why you have a signature that says "United" 3 times.


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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

quote:
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It wasn't a rebuttal. Just as yours wasn't an argument, just nice words expressing a conviction of yours.


Of course it was an argument. PKC suggested I was subscribing to "ruling class ideology" and I pointed out why I was doing something very different.

quote:
Now you're changing the subject. The original question was 'Why support your own national team?'


No it wasn't. PKC never asked that question. In fact he never asked me any questions. I'm talking about the difference between simple patriotism and pride in your cultural products, and you've wandered in, missed the point entirely, fabricated a question and then told me I'm changing the subject.


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quote:
Originally posted by bas
I wasn't referring to you Aren't you English anyway or is that just Stu?


I think stu has about 5 fathers to choose from, so he doesn’t really know!

my heritage is English/Scottish, but no im all Oz. but, I grew up on English football (ive never even seen an A-league game) and it just seemed natural to follow england, which ive done for almost 2 decades. Hell, I didn’t even know Australia had a national team til I was much older.

Fuck Australia!


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Registered: Nov 2004
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quote:
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Of course it was an argument. PKC suggested I was subscribing to "ruling class ideology" and I pointed out why I was doing something very different.



No it wasn't. PKC never asked that question. In fact he never asked me any questions. I'm talking about the difference between simple patriotism and pride in your cultural products, and you've wandered in, missed the point entirely, fabricated a question and then told me I'm changing the subject.


Lira asked the question, actually. And that's what I was referring to when I said you changed the subject.

Anyways, I would like to read your thoughts on what I pointed out on my last post.

Off-topic: who's that on your sig? I think it's Tiesto but I'm not sure.


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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by woscar
Lira asked the question, actually. And that's what I was referring to when I said you changed the subject.


I wasn't replying to Lira, though. I was replying to PKC.

quote:
Anyways, I would like to read your thoughts on what I pointed out on my last post.


My point was that national sides are the expression of the cultures that produced them, which is why they have particular styles. You don't have to like it, just like you don't have to like your family members. I'd much rather be a Brazil fan than an England fan, believe me, but club football is where you make your choices about what you like. The World Cup means nothing if you aren't supporting your own country. What meaning can victory have if you can pick up and drop the team you're following on a whim?

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woscar
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Guatemala, Guatemala

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I wasn't replying to Lira, though. I was replying to PKC.



My point was that national sides are the expression of the cultures that produced them, which is why they have particular styles. You don't have to like it, just like you don't have to like your family members. I'd much rather be a Brazil fan than an England fan, believe me, but club football is where you make your choices about what you like. The World Cup means nothing if you aren't supporting your own country. What meaning can victory have if you can pick up and drop the team you're following on a whim?

EDIT: My avatar is Chris Morris.


Yeah, I get that and I will have to say I agree on that aspect. However, let me remind you that I come from a country with a very poor football philosophy, and an even worse performance. It's quite different for you folks that actually have a competitive squad. It would be a completely different situation if Guatemala actually made it to the World Cup for a change.

And I'm not picking a team "on a whim". Like I said, the Spanish side plays precisely the style of football that I enjoy most. Besides, my club is Barcelona and seeing Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol and Pique lift the cup would be nothing short of awesome.


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