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Originally posted by theterran The other irritating thing is that cubase is not very good about giving accurate peaks...sometimes it says -3.0...where in the same section played again with no change it will say maybe -4.5...like it can't make up it's mind or something...

That's very strange. The peak level should be calculated instantaneously. I had Cubase once (the fairies gave it to me) but it was such a mission to use I just gave up, so sorry I can't help you there.

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Um...the soundcloud stream sounds like crap. Compare the 320 if you don't believe me =\.

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Originally posted by theterran http://soundcloud.com/theterranastr...lethump-re-edit Um...the soundcloud stream sounds like crap. Compare the 320 if you don't believe me =\.

Now you're on the right track!

The first main synth sounds like it has too much low end that is bleeding into the bass at 0:47. Can be high-passed or shelved accordingly.

Hats could be brighter and slightly louder, but otherwise keep progressing in this direction! Note how the frequency ranges of one instrument blend into those of another. Some instruments, though, like the piano, are really well placed.

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Oook. The results : (will start on Track2, but I think if my mixes are at least "ok" now I should be fine ending the thread here, as I'm sure you're sick of me by now )

And unmastered to me seems better on the stream...whereas the mastered sounds better as 320. *shrug*.

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Trundlethump by TheTA

Much thanks Atlantis and mr. Raphie. Really do hope there's been some improvement :S

Last edited by theterran on Nov-03-2010 at 09:18

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Originally posted by Atlantis-AR That's very strange. The peak level should be calculated instantaneously. I had Cubase once (the fairies gave it to me) but it was such a mission to use I just gave up, so sorry I can't help you there.

Its because the meters aren't oversampled I think. If I remember right, its because intersample peaks can occur which aren't seen by the meter, because it only listens to the track a certain number of times per second.

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Originally posted by kitphillips Its because the meters aren't oversampled I think. If I remember right, its because intersample peaks can occur which aren't seen by the meter, because it only listens to the track a certain number of times per second.

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Good to know this actually. Is there any safe way to gauge unmastered peaks other than playing it through a few times then?

Would it be safe to say that -3dbfs is a safe place to "aim" for, but having say -2.7 would be fine?

I've found through some recent trial and error with this "newfound" mixing mindset, that about -4 to -3 dbfs seems like the perfect amount of headroom to work with, without drastically altering the dynamics of the track.