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Originally posted by RebeL9 Actually the only credits you dutch people can claim is for making trance shit.

I wouldn't say that too fast. A lot of underground trance producers are very skilled. Don't blame us only for the commercial trance music because these are most of the time garbage.
And if you think the artists here produce "shit", that's fine. It's your opinion.

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Originally posted by rem11 best vid on yt must thnk jean for his contribution.

Which brings me to the next part of the Dutch musical legacy. Which is were things really started to turn to shit:

The klubbheads..

Koen Groeneveld and Addy van der Zwan. They singlehandedly shaped what house was to become here throughout the nineties. When you look at some of their breakthrough work you can already hear a lot of elements you still hear in today's dirty house output:



They were responsible for hundreds of releases under 35 different aliases, all successfull. You can take a look at this list here. It's really quite impressive. They also co produced DJ jean's work. As well as Paul Elstak's, for those who are wondering about happy hardcore.

Basically. The entire Mainstream dance scene was run by a few people with dozens of labels and aliases. Gabber was no different, run by a few producing tycoons who made tons of money with tracks they spent about half an hour on. Later in the nineties when eurodance started to die off the trance guys took over with similar marketing strategies, but could never push it as far as the klubbheads did. So they started exploring internet marketing which gave them the international recognition they have today.


Obviously this isn't the whole story, there was also lots of credible music being made (mainly techno by the likes of Jeroen Verheij, Dylan Hermelijn, Orlando Voorn and so on). But in terms of competition with the UK and Germany there really isn't much to talk about.

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Tiesto, Armin and Ferry obviously cloud people's view..., but I think Rebel9 knows there is more then just trance coming from Holland.
But people who don't know e.g. following lines probably miss a lot to have a decent overview:

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I'm Bigger, and Bolder, and Rougher and Tougher, in other words Sucker, there is no other

Also e.g. Gaston Steenkist (DJ Dobre) en René ter Horst (DJ Zki)as The Goodmen, Olav Basoski, Erick E, Michel De Heij, Ronald Molendijk.

Still, only once Belgium has been mentioned after I did. Do people forget that easy, what a shame for e.g. Mike and all what Bonzai brought us?
Probably just few remember The Sound Of C, but that's long ago of course.

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leave it to a bunch of trance crackers to start saying how much impact it had on everything when it came a lot later.

everyone knows svenson & gielen were awesome sound

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I think Germany am i right???

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Yea, the ID&T days will be missed where we sat on our pc's watching the stream of trance energy while id'ing on forums.

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Japan. Not Detroit, not Chicago, not Germany, not UK, not Netherlands, not even Jamaica, but Japan.

Lots of the machines that made the EDM scene are from Japan. Also, it wouldn't be surprising if it turned ou that many western EDM artists were inspired by video games, manga/anime and the japanese attitude to science and technology.

Now if you were to ask me which country in the western world had the least impact on the EDM scene, I'd say Sweden. Sweden has one of the strongest zero-tolerances against drugs in the world and here, EDM basically equals usage of illegal drugs. Thus, the Swedish EDM scene has basically been a rather small, obscure and introvert subculture. And I hate it.

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Originally posted by pointPi Japan. Not Detroit, not Chicago, not Germany, not UK, not Netherlands, not even Jamaica, but Japan. Lots of the machines that made the EDM scene are from Japan. Also, it wouldn't be surprising if it turned ou that many western EDM artists were inspired by video games, manga/anime and the japanese attitude to science and technology. Now if you were to ask me which country in the western world had the least impact on the EDM scene, I'd say Sweden. Sweden has one of the strongest zero-tolerances against drugs in the world and here, EDM basically equals usage of illegal drugs. Thus, the Swedish EDM scene has basically been a rather small, obscure and introvert subculture. And I hate it.

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Originally posted by pointPi Japan. Not Detroit, not Chicago, not Germany, not UK, not Netherlands, not even Jamaica, but Japan. Lots of the machines that made the EDM scene are from Japan.

That's like saying that Zanzibar is the leading country in the cake and tea industry because it's/was the world's biggest clove producer/exporter. Nigga please.



The part about Sweden is so idiotic I don't even need to dispute it.

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Originally posted by stealthman Vernon Wanderer will rediscover his roots back unto wandering vast endless plains miserably....

UK, NL, DE

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Originally posted by Vernon Wanderer That's like saying that Zanzibar is the leading country in the cake and tea industry because it's/was the world's biggest clove producer/exporter. Nigga please. The part about Sweden is so idiotic I don't even need to dispute it.

I missed a golden moment to shut up, didn't I?

Now that I think of it, yes, what I said was a pretty stupid and unnecessary statement.

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