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Originally posted by Psyshell for now I don't have the money to goto university (instead of tafe).

I'm slightly confused by this. You don't have to pay Uni fees upfront, you can defer HECS onto what is essentially a loan, and only have to pay it back when you're earning money in the workforce, over a certain amount

Or have they massively changed the rules since I was at Uni?

Edit: Sorry for the off-topic, but I'm actually curious about this.

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Tafe is upfront while uni isn't, but the upfront cost isn't the only cost. There's also additional financial differences that mean whether or not I can afford to live away from home. More contact hours means less opportunities to work etc. I'm also not eligible to goto uni until I finish my tafe course anyway... and for IT tafe is much much better career wise. Businesspeople prefer people who've actually networked computers to people who've sat around talking about it for 3 years. At uni, IT programming exams are done on paper.... which is just... incredibly stupid and unrealistic. I definitely know so many guys that fully program websites including all syntax with a pen and paper (which ofcourse includes no automated syntax checking) :\.

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Originally posted by Sushipunk Edit: Sorry for the off-topic, but I'm actually curious about this.

You locked my thread that I designated for offtopic stuff from this thread, you're not sorry . Regardless, go ahead.

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Originally posted by Sushipunk and only have to pay it back when you're earning money in the workforce, over a certain amount

Yep, I'm aware of how hecs works.

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Last edited by Psyshell on Dec-30-2012 at 05:49

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Originally posted by Psyshell Tafe is upfront while uni isn't, but the upfront cost isn't the only cost. There's also additional financial differences that mean whether or not I can afford to live away from home. More contact hours means less opportunities to work etc. I'm also not eligible to goto uni until I finish my tafe course anyway... and for IT tafe is much much better career wise. Businesspeople prefer people who've actually networked computers to people who've sat around talking about it for 3 years.

Are you on Austudy now though? Austudy + rent assistance + a part time job (even not many hours) is enough to live on while studying, plus a little extra if you're careful with your spending. Austudy even gives you like a grand or something at the start of each semester now. I never got that! LOL

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Originally posted by Psyshell You locked my thread that I designated for offtopic stuff from this thread, you're not sorry . Regardless, go ahead.

Actually, I locked it because it would have just turned into a total bash-fest, which we don't really need more of.

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Quite possibly, but hey you're better at predicting this forum than me.

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Originally posted by Sushipunk Are you on Austudy now though? Austudy + rent assistance + a part time job (even not many hours) is enough to live on while studying, plus a little extra if you're careful with your spending.

Right now I'm on "can live at home youth allowance". Concidering that my mother is thinking of moving out, sitting on centrelink and not giving me any additional money (even though with 130 a week rent that leaves me with 5 dollars spare a week... on a 35 a week food budget.... so it's not exactly spare) I'm currently looking into getting upgraded to cannot live at home. The fact that I get yelled at when I buy food that's both cheaper and healthier than what she tells me to buy with my own money (but apparently it's bad because it's easier to cook) and just a bunch of other things means I'd really prefer it never to live at home again. I mean hey, some of my stupidest forum posts have been just after I've been yelled at for several hours over absolutely nothing. E.g. "you're not allowed to buy us more plates, we have 3 already and if we get any more you're not going to do the dishes". If you think I'm nuts you should see my mother. It's very lucky I stopped taking her seriously since I was 15. Or my personal favourite(s) is in the last month, she's tried to steal 10 dollars of vodka from me and then manipulate her way out of it (I didn't let her), she's just finished watching a science program about how bad it is to sit at a computer for more than 50 minutes straight. I mention the science is mixed and she just loses it and gets really angry for 30 minutes. It then turns out she actually just wanted me to stop listening to music and go do the dishes. When I point out that's extremely deceptive of her and "that's why I don't trust you" she absolutely loses it. My other favourite one is how I always used to eat lots of food before bed to get to sleep easier, and for about 2 years that got me yelled at every time I did it. Then around 2010 the latest version of her favourite diet book came out saying that eating before bed helps you sleep... something I knew all along.

I'll be fine, but constantly being yelled at (for 30 minutes to an hour, not 5 minutes either) over various things does make it a fair bit harder to study/work properly.

Centrelink payments source:
http://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/themes/students-and-trainees

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Last edited by Sushipunk on Dec-30-2012 at 06:31

Sorry, I didn't actually mean to edit your post there, I hit "edit" instead of "quote" and proceeded to write

And now I have lost my reply. Will type again.

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Originally posted by ziptnf Is DarkArbiter the new ********?

No I'm the new *********. Not DA.

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Originally posted by ziptnf Is DarkArbiter the new william.ashley?

You are however someone whose personality I find annoying and who I don't enjoy commenting on my mixes; similar music tastes or not.

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Originally posted by Psyshell Right now I'm on "can live at home youth allowance". Concidering that my mother is thinking of moving out, sitting on centrelink and not giving me any additional money (even though with 130 a week rent that leaves me with 5 dollars spare a week... on a 35 a week food budget.... so it's not exactly spare) I'm currently looking into getting upgraded to cannot live at home. The fact that I get yelled at when I buy food that's both cheaper and healthier than what she tells me to buy with my own money (but apparently it's bad because it's easier to cook) and just a bunch of other things means I'd really prefer it never to live at home again. I mean hey, some of my stupidest forum posts have been just after I've been yelled at for several hours over absolutely nothing. E.g. "you're not allowed to buy us more plates, we have 3 already and if we get any more you're not going to do the dishes". If you think I'm nuts you should see my mother. It's very lucky I stopped taking her seriously since I was 15. Or my personal favourite(s) is in the last month, she's tried to steal 10 dollars of vodka from me and then manipulate her way out of it (I didn't let her), she's just finished watching a science program about how bad it is to sit at a computer for more than 50 minutes straight. I mention the science is mixed and she just loses it and gets really angry for 30 minutes. It then turns out she actually just wanted me to stop listening to music and go do the dishes. When I point out that's extremely deceptive of her and "that's why I don't trust you" she absolutely loses it. My other favourite one is how I always used to eat lots of food before bed to get to sleep easier, and for about 2 years that got me yelled at every time I did it. Then around 2010 the latest version of her favourite diet book came out saying that eating before bed helps you sleep... something I knew all along. I'll be fine, but constantly being yelled at (for 30 minutes to an hour, not 5 minutes either) over various things does make it a fair bit harder to study/work properly. Centrelink payments source: http://www.humanservices.gov.au/cus...ts-and-trainees

Yeah, that sucks, and sounds pretty heavy. And I'm actually really sorry to hear about it. My mum is kinda nuts too (not quite like yours, but in different ways). I moved out when I was 17 though, to go to Uni. Best thing I ever did, and you should seriously consider it. Does you mum really charge you $130 a week for rent? I know Melbourne can be expensive though...

If she ends up moving interstate, then you'll automatically qualify as an "independent" just by staying where you are, with your studies, and so your payments will increase by quite a bit. Couple that with a part time job and you'll be golden.

If she doesn't end up moving, then talk to Centrelink about it anyway. Say you have family problems, or what ever you like, but make them understand that you can't live at home, and they'll put you down as an independent on their books. I had to do it when I moved out, because my dad lives here in Brisbane and there was no fucking way I was moving in with him, lol.

Ideally, talk with a few of your friends and go and rent a share-house. Split the rent and bills, etc. It's quite a lot of fun, and not too expensive at all, if you can get 3-4 people together (despite some of my horror stories about share-housing, lol).

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Originally posted by Psyshell No I'm the new *********. Not DA. You are however someone whose personality I find annoying and who I don't enjoy commenting on my mixes; similar music tastes or not.

Wow, you're quick on the reply. It's almost like you give a fuck.

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The 130 is for a share house. Absolutely that's... my only option (financially). Me and my mum can't even afford to live as 2 people in one house in Melbourne. I shall, but it's around new year and lots of people are on holiday. I'm doing it first thing on the new year. Yeh my life's going to get a lot easier once I move out. I could easily mention concrete examples (like the food shopping thing or the plates thing) to a psychologist to get their assesment of whether I can live at home or not (since that's usually how it works with centrelink). I don't like talking to psychs but money is money and that's what I'm going to have to do. I'm certainly not telling them all about my relationship with my gf or everything that makes me unhappy in life. I'll just stick to relevent home life details until I get the rubber stamp saying "it's ok for you to move out from home" (p.s. why the fuck do I even need to do this, fucking neo liberals).

I mean, there is always the option of working at mcdonalds all my life or similar... but I don't think anyone even wants that for me (apart from certain young and economically naive right wing assholes on facebook). If I successfully complete my whatever, and become a full time IT guy, electrician or scientist (that's my 3 career preferences in order) then I'm going to be paying way more tax over my life than I'd ever recieved in welfare as a student.

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Originally posted by ziptnf Wow, you're quick on the reply. It's almost like you give a fuck.

You sound like dykes on jay. Yes I reply for a while, but it ends eventually. Ask him.

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