Something strikes me really odd - as you are discussing different medications here, you also happen to mention SIDEeffects. If a drug is going to make you feel sick, that isn't a sideeffect, it's an effect.

nausea is a side effect of say cancer treatment. Or homosexuality is a side effect of taking E. The quantifier sort of delineates that it is an adverse affect that happens along with the main intended effect.

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I was prescribed 6mg of Xanax a day for months. Getting off that was fucking hell.

For the most part the only people I know who do various pills are smart about it and its a rare treat for them, but I no longer talk to a formerly close friend of mine after he went to rehab for pills, got out, borrowed a few grand, and then ran off to go buy more pills. He had also gotten started through a legal prescription, after a bad accident.

I'm pretty sure everyone in the country would agree we have a real problem with prescription drugs, the real issue is what the hell to do about it.

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The country is making tooooo much money off of others' misery and suffering, you can be sure about it that something as profitable as this will continue.
I get the same feeling about the prescription drug issue when I hear the president of US speaking of peace, but war rages on.. it just makes too much money to let it go.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney Well you are clearly superman , not telling the entire story or in denial. It is tantamount to saying i can drink 20 litres of water and not need to pee for 7 days. The tolerance is not something your mind can control. Perhaps you don't need the medication and the withdrawal and subsequent rebound effect are not as pronounced or you mask it with alcohol. Either way, you are probably the only person on the planet that is immune to benzodiazepine tolerance and it either means you are from Krypton, are a wood elf or do not have the ability to adapt to incoming chemicals which a healthy person would and should probably get that checked out. And 2 mg is quite a bit. 4 times the starting dosage. Unless you are just really fat or something. And you should know the half life of clonazapam having studied pharmacology and understand why you won't start feeling the withdrawal until about 2 days. It is one of the longer acting benzo which given that you don't take them on a regular basis rather prn is kinda the wrong medication to be on. But whatever.

I guess I'm superman then. I've taken xanax, valium, klonopin for years and was always able to stop for more than 2 days without any noticeable withdrawal symptoms. You only develop dependency if you're taking a very high dose every single day, which I never have.

Also, the half life of klonopin is 18-50 hours, so you very well could withdraw after not taking it for 2 days.

Edit: Of course you would know that though, being the expert and all.

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Not every long-term user will experience symptoms upon discontinuation, but the proportion of those who will has been variably estimated to be between 15% and 44%.

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Originally posted by OrangestO This isn't about physics, this is about waves.

Am i the only one here who's never taken drugs or pills? Can someone send me some e pills?

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Originally posted by Kylle Am i the only one here who's never taken drugs or pills?

apparently yes...

start in 3, 2, 1...wheeeeeee

I've never taken prescription drugs for anything aside from antibiotics a couple times. Oh no wait...both times I scratched my cornea I had Tylenol #3's. A bit excessive really.

I was prescribed some "cheer up" pill in my teenager years, was supposed to take them for 3 months a pill a day, but I didn't, for some reason, believe in the effect of these medications, so I took only 1 and was like: fuck it...
Is there any truth to it though? Does the person have to actually have faith in it, or believe it will help them, if they take the meds? Somehow I believe it is, for you speak of addiction and not knowing how to cope without them. But if the person believes in the effect of the pill and feels better because of taking them, are they addicted to the substances OR simply the fact that it is a pill and by god, it is THAT medication that has helped them, while they could be taking placebos, believing that it is the same med and still feel better and relaxed?

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Originally posted by looom I was prescribed some "cheer up" pill in my teenager years, was supposed to take them for 3 months a pill a day, but I didn't, for some reason, believe in the effect of these medications, so I took only 1 and was like: fuck it... Is there any truth to it though? Does the person have to actually have faith in it, or believe it will help them, if they take the meds? Somehow I believe it is, for you speak of addiction and not knowing how to cope without them. But if the person believes in the effect of the pill and feels better because of taking them, are they addicted to the substances OR simply the fact that it is a pill and by god, it is THAT medication that has helped them, while they could be taking placebos, believing that it is the same med and still feel better and relaxed?

If they are mental pills I think it's 75% mental and 25% the medication unless it's an antibiotic for some kind of an infection.
I'm taking 2 antibiotics now and let me tell you, i'd rather take opiates, cause the side effects from the antibiotic is horrible