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Lews
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quote:
Originally posted by Spacey Orange
i just want to encourage everyone who's even remotely interested in this topic, to read the wiki article on the fourth amendment.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four...es_Constitution

There are a lot of scholarly sources out there but it will give anyone a general idea.


Sorry I got sidetracked on whether its spying or not. The issue is whether the broad searches violate the fourth amendment. Given my limited knowledge, I believe that they do.

Moreover, i think the NSA, in this instance, is a solution looking for a problem.

Finally, I think this is a part of a larger problem, that being, the military industrial complex President Eisenhower warned us about.


So, to summarize, you have no idea what's going on, and are freaking out about nothing.

Your fourth amendment rights are not being violated. Please actually read facts before you freak out. Thanks.


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Lews
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Originally posted by saluyamo
If they have the number the calls are from then they know who said what.
How else would they be able to connect the data to the potential terrorists?


If they know who the number is connected to. Which they need a warrant for.

Next.


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quote:
Originally posted by Spacey Orange
i just want to encourage everyone who's even remotely interested in this topic, to read the wiki article on the fourth amendment.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four...es_Constitution

There are a lot of scholarly sources out there but it will give anyone a general idea.


Sorry I got sidetracked on whether its spying or not. The issue is whether the broad searches violate the fourth amendment. Given my limited knowledge, I believe that they do.

Moreover, i think the NSA, in this instance, is a solution looking for a problem.

Finally, I think this is a part of a larger problem, that being, the military industrial complex President Eisenhower warned us about.


the easiest way for you to grasp the state of your own paranoia, is to go live overseas for a while. the US makes some people really fucken crazy. i mean, they have to be fucking stupid to begin with obviously, but it can be all down-hill from there.


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quote:
Originally posted by Lews
If they know who the number is connected to. Which they need a warrant for.

Next.


in today's modern times surely they can just search the phonebook for matches, no warrant required?


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Lews
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quote:
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in today's modern times surely they can just search the phonebook for matches, no warrant required?


1) Cellphones aren't in phonebooks.

2) Omg are you telling me the government is looking at public records omg spying omg im retarded omg omg omg omg omg

3)


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Spacey Orange, you should know better then to question things. That makes you retarded. If you don't want to be retarded any longer, just accept everything that's happening around you without giving it a second thought. You will then be all knowing and can tell other, still retarded people on forums how stupid they are when they can't see the obvious; Secretly collecting information isn't the same thing as spying.

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Yeah. What this guys said.

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Yeah. What that guy said.

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Seriously though, if you think the concept of "digital privacy" (whatever that is supposed to mean), was ever actually a thing, you're deluding yourself.

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IMPEACHMENT IMMINENT

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Spacey Orange, I salute you, don't listen to these idiots. They all voted for Barry in the first place.

Who's the idiot now?! Lol

2016 is upon us!

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