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amdmaxx
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Nah, Amit is only 67lb, there is room for few more..

quote:
Originally posted by arleetec
You and Amit, isn't that full capicity for glow already?

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Love that about glow..

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Originally posted by pyro264jb
No way bro... This will probably be the Best Pvd Experiance of your life



Facts about GLow.

1) Paul will walk bye you to get into the booth
2) you will be aout 2 fee away from him the whole night
3) He will Walk out of the back left door of the club Right up to the Trance addicts and say hi and mingle a bit.


These 3 things have happened for me the past 3 times I have been there for AVB , Marco V, and Johon Gielen .

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Greedy
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Registered: Apr 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by Twilogoddess
I wouldn't count on the third one. He'll be putting on his jacket during the last encore and scadaddle.


hmmm, sounds like he doesnt feel comfortable being in nyc. Another great reason to go to Glow. I guess he gives more attention to fans in DC than NY possibly.


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Twilogoddess
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quote:
Originally posted by Busy Child
hmmm, sounds like he doesnt feel comfortable being in nyc. Another great reason to go to Glow. I guess he gives more attention to fans in DC than NY possibly.
No you misunderstood. Paul loves NYC.
He is not goin to mingle and take pix with the ta's. He's puts on his jacket during the encore and jets. He's not friendly and approachable like the dutch guys.

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Taub
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Registered: Apr 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by Twilogoddess
No you misunderstood. Paul loves NYC.
He is not goin to mingle and take pix with the ta's. He's puts on his jacket during the encore and jets. He's not friendly and approachable like the dutch guys.


or the italian

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pyro264jb
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quote:
Originally posted by Busy Child
hmmm, sounds like he doesnt feel comfortable being in nyc. Another great reason to go to Glow. I guess he gives more attention to fans in DC than NY possibly.



Any dj who would fly from Europe to NYC to Dallas and then back to

NYC the next day to do a FREE show must like us a little

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Greedy
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We will have to see if paul sticks around after glow to settle this.


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Rhythm
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Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Indy

quote:
Originally posted by Busy Child
We will have to see if paul sticks around after glow to settle this.


Yah. I agree with Busy Child all the way here. Call it a hunch, but I don't think that Paul will jet past 20 of some of his best fans, ya know? (especially if we're all in VANDIT shirts) He may only stay for a couple mins, but I still think he'll do it!! The trick is to park your car in the lot across from GLOW... then run to it after the set, and rush back to the entrance to get your pics haha.

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GLOW's sound system

Hey guys... this was posted recently on GLOW's forum coming from Pete Moutso (weekly resident dj and music director at GLOW). He talks about the sound system, it's specs, and how they're workin to fix some of the probs.

----------------------------------------------------------------

Hi, I hear your needs and I understand completely. Just to give you a brief background...we own the whole light, sound system and dj booth at insomnia. Last year when we moved the Glow party from Zei club to Insomnia we realized that changes had to be made at Insomnia. To be fair, at the time, the new owners of the venue did not have the funds to do this. So, we knew that we had to take a big risk and invest our own money to make Glow what we wanted it to be. The first thing was get a completely new sound system. I am not exaggerating when I tell you that the original system was maybe 6 mids/highs and maybe 4 sub cabinets. We had arguably the best speaker manufacturers, EAW (Eastern Acoustical Works…the same guys who make Avalon and the mids/highs of Phazon) come to Insomnia and measure the main room and recommend to us what sound to get. In other words, what you see in the main room is a custom built sound system. I made it clear that I wanted more sound/power than we needed in order to have no compression and to be able to support live bands and anything that the room would ever need. What did they make me? An awesome 42,000 (continuous) EAW sound system. To give you an idea about its power…when you hear it full blast on Saturday’s…the system is only running at ¼ of its capabilities. We did this because; we would rather spend a lot of money up front for a great sound system…and not have to worry about blowing speakers and amps every week. And to say the sound system runs on one amp is totally absurd! This is 2002, and the days of having a designated room with fans, cooling units and 30 amps are over. Our sound system has 16 mid/high speakers all around the room to give it a surround effect and they all have built in amps. We have two 11,000 watt QSC amps running 8 double 18” sub cabinets. Everything is running on digital processing. The beauty of this system is that it has so much headroom, that it is pretty difficult to blow anything.

The problem with the main room is that it is all concrete. I’m sorry, but as promoters (not club owners) we don’t have 200,000 lying around to buy a hardwood floor, or spend 40,000 to spray the ceiling with acoustical foam. So, we did what EAW recommended and placed 16 speakers around the room to give it a warmer feel and surround sound. So, the sound system is not a problem, we did not go ‘cheap’ on it and I am not ashamed of saying that we as promoters went above and beyond what we should do. Do I wish I was at a venue with hardwood floors and new everything? Yes I do! It would be great to just show up, throw a party, and go home at the end of the day instead of worrying about, sound, lights, maintenance…etc. But we are not, so we make the best of what we have.

Another problem at Insomnia was their DJ booth. It is located on a balcony (where our light jockey is located). What’s the point of bringing the best djs…if nobody can see them (this is the biggest problem I had at Zei)? So we custom built the Glow DJ booth. Every guest dj LOVES the booth. Instead of dj’s being ‘gods’ in some high far away, vip booth…they are on the same level with you. As I had hoped, the DJ-Crowd interaction has been incredible, leading to some great dj sets (In the new DJMag Top 100 issue, #9 Glow Resident Ferry Corsten said that his ‘gig of 2002’ was Glow!). I can’t wait to see PvD in an intimate room like Glow’s in December!

Insomnia originally had 6 intelligent lights. Now it has an amazing 36 Coemar lighting fixtures, two lasers and three projectors all purchased by us.

For the last month I have not been happy with our sound system. I am not going to say it sounds like crap, because I still think its one of the best, but I think it should sound better. So, a month ago I arranged to have one of the best sound guys in the US, Bob Linkas, come and ‘tweak/EQ’ the system. This will be done NEXT week. Thanks for your concerns, but I just wanted to state the record that we are not sitting on our asses, being greedy promoters ;-)

Pete Moutso
Music Director-Club GLOW

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pyro264jb
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Re: GLOW's sound system

quote:
Originally posted by Rhythm
Hey guys... this was posted recently on GLOW's forum coming from Pete Moutso (weekly resident dj and music director at GLOW). He talks about the sound system, it's specs, and how they're workin to fix some of the probs.

----------------------------------------------------------------

Hi, I hear your needs and I understand completely. Just to give you a brief background...we own the whole light, sound system and dj booth at insomnia. Last year when we moved the Glow party from Zei club to Insomnia we realized that changes had to be made at Insomnia. To be fair, at the time, the new owners of the venue did not have the funds to do this. So, we knew that we had to take a big risk and invest our own money to make Glow what we wanted it to be. The first thing was get a completely new sound system. I am not exaggerating when I tell you that the original system was maybe 6 mids/highs and maybe 4 sub cabinets. We had arguably the best speaker manufacturers, EAW (Eastern Acoustical Works…the same guys who make Avalon and the mids/highs of Phazon) come to Insomnia and measure the main room and recommend to us what sound to get. In other words, what you see in the main room is a custom built sound system. I made it clear that I wanted more sound/power than we needed in order to have no compression and to be able to support live bands and anything that the room would ever need. What did they make me? An awesome 42,000 (continuous) EAW sound system. To give you an idea about its power…when you hear it full blast on Saturday’s…the system is only running at ¼ of its capabilities. We did this because; we would rather spend a lot of money up front for a great sound system…and not have to worry about blowing speakers and amps every week. And to say the sound system runs on one amp is totally absurd! This is 2002, and the days of having a designated room with fans, cooling units and 30 amps are over. Our sound system has 16 mid/high speakers all around the room to give it a surround effect and they all have built in amps. We have two 11,000 watt QSC amps running 8 double 18” sub cabinets. Everything is running on digital processing. The beauty of this system is that it has so much headroom, that it is pretty difficult to blow anything.

The problem with the main room is that it is all concrete. I’m sorry, but as promoters (not club owners) we don’t have 200,000 lying around to buy a hardwood floor, or spend 40,000 to spray the ceiling with acoustical foam. So, we did what EAW recommended and placed 16 speakers around the room to give it a warmer feel and surround sound. So, the sound system is not a problem, we did not go ‘cheap’ on it and I am not ashamed of saying that we as promoters went above and beyond what we should do. Do I wish I was at a venue with hardwood floors and new everything? Yes I do! It would be great to just show up, throw a party, and go home at the end of the day instead of worrying about, sound, lights, maintenance…etc. But we are not, so we make the best of what we have.

Another problem at Insomnia was their DJ booth. It is located on a balcony (where our light jockey is located). What’s the point of bringing the best djs…if nobody can see them (this is the biggest problem I had at Zei)? So we custom built the Glow DJ booth. Every guest dj LOVES the booth. Instead of dj’s being ‘gods’ in some high far away, vip booth…they are on the same level with you. As I had hoped, the DJ-Crowd interaction has been incredible, leading to some great dj sets (In the new DJMag Top 100 issue, #9 Glow Resident Ferry Corsten said that his ‘gig of 2002’ was Glow!). I can’t wait to see PvD in an intimate room like Glow’s in December!

Insomnia originally had 6 intelligent lights. Now it has an amazing 36 Coemar lighting fixtures, two lasers and three projectors all purchased by us.

For the last month I have not been happy with our sound system. I am not going to say it sounds like crap, because I still think its one of the best, but I think it should sound better. So, a month ago I arranged to have one of the best sound guys in the US, Bob Linkas, come and ‘tweak/EQ’ the system. This will be done NEXT week. Thanks for your concerns, but I just wanted to state the record that we are not sitting on our asses, being greedy promoters ;-)

Pete Moutso
Music Director-Club GLOW


The floors are still made out of concrete
But I hope that Paul has a good time at glow......... because next time if there is a next time I will be there.














MV

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