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| quote: | Originally posted by SportTrance
1. You've been accused of having weapons of mass destruction and you have denied having any of them. The UN has does a number of inspections, and you do not comply completely. (why? who knows).
2. The US declares war on you.
3. You continue telling your people and the world you have no (or no longer) have weapons of mass destruction, and that the US is a war mongering greedy bully and should be fought against.
Two choices.
A. Would it be wiser to use those weapons of mass destruction to defeat your enemy and become an official visible liar to the entire world? (meaning, the UN and nations would agree, that the US was correct, and possibly join in the conflict)
B. or would it be smarter to secretly destroy the weapons of mass destruction, and die with "dignity", knowing you possibly will never be proved of having such weapons, and in turn making the "war mongering bully" United States look like a fool to the entire world for being so sure of Iraq having such weapons.
The right answer is B.
By choosing A, he would prove the United States was correct, and I can assure you, several many more nations would jump in and support the take out. He would just be hurting himself.
War tactics man, war tactics. |
Man, this "SportTrance" guy never stops. At first he seemed to have a somewhat decent arguement but this is nothing but repetition and speculation I am afraid. Ill break it down for you SportTrance.. really simple here
A. We are not invading Iraq because they are a percieved threat (this war should be enough to convince you otherwise). We are also not invading Iraq because we are tired of Saddam Husseins "tyranny".. (read: A LOT OF OTHER COUNTRIES STILL HAVE DICTATORSHIPS or are "COMMIES" or otherwise non-democratic forms of government, (read: China for a good starter buddy, or how about North Korea)??, they just dont also happen to be sitting on the second largest oil reserves in the WORLD or happen to be complete PUSHOVERS (after years of UN weapon inspections stripping the Iraqis of what little weaponry they had). I don't give a fuck if you say we only know 1/4th of the picture, that may be true, but you only know 1/4th too buddy, so basically you are making an IRRATIONAL judgement because somebody 'higher up' obviously is looking out for american (or iraqi) civilian interest, thats how its supposed to work , but dream on.. you said it yourself, this world is not "Ideal".
B. It is only logical to assume that their is other "motives" behind this war. The *glaringly* obvious one, is oil.
C. The fact that the US military is trying to make this war look humanitarian with it's surrender conditions and such is nothing more than a cover... people are *still* dying even if it is less.
D. Your argument that Saddam Hussein is going to destroy those weapons to save face is absolutely fucking retarded and ill founded. IF SADDAM HUSSEIN even *HAD* those weapons and intended on destroying them wouldn't it have been *BETTER* to do it before the US declared war on him so he could 'supposedly' remain in power? *edit* You're little scenario doesn't take into the account Saddam is going to be dead come hell or highwater by the end of this war...
E. The US couldn't make its case before the UN(and in fact withdrew in the face of the veto). Iraq is being sentenced to death like a prisoner that was never given proper trial, that is the TRUTH.
(b). Their are *plenty* other ruthless "dictators" in the world, equally as horrible as Saddam Hussein and you don't see GWB campaigning for them to be brought to the ground, most of them a FAR more significant threat to US security than 'Saddam Hussein's regime'. So save me your "SEE YOU AGREE SADDAM IS RUTHLESS" because thats like a "duh".
F. If you can STILL support this war without refuting anything i just said above you are basically saying "Blood for Oil" is okay. Or you can insist that "peace" never solved anything. Either way, I hope that 5 cents you save on every gallon of gas justifies the 10,000 civilian lives that will be lost in this war (by the US intelligence's own estimate) and the countless others that will be wrecked.
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Last edited by SuperFarStucker on Mar-23-2003 at 04:47
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