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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN thats the same video cretinrot posted a couple pages back.

And what do you think of it? LOL

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Originally posted by Magnetonium And what do you think of it? LOL

nothing special. im certainly not seeing what you people are seeing. the fact that it repeats the falsehood regarding "no steel building" doesnt do a lot for its credibility.

the entire concept that the BBC somehow got wind of the ultra super-duper top secret black ops US government plan is too ridiculous for words. as was cretinrot's assertion that youtube had pulled the BBC footage from its website.

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Just in case you're denying, watch the video and see for yourself - they said SEVERAL times, and put it in text that WTC 7 HAS COLLAPSED ALREADY, while for at least 15 minutes it was still standing fine. How come BBC got the news before everyone else did? So, I guess it was PULLED, eh, as Larry Silverstein said it well ;-) Words and pictures dont lie, you do!

BY THE WAY, GOOGLE DOESNT HAVE THAT FOOTAGE I LINKED YOU, THEY BRING IT DOWN SOON AFTER. THIS VIDEO IS FROM A DIFFERENT WEBSITE, AND A FULL VERSION ACTUALLY.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Just in case you're denying, watch the video and see for yourself - they said SEVERAL times, and put it in text that WTC 7 HAS COLLAPSED ALREADY, while for at least 15 minutes it was still standing fine. How come BBC got the news before everyone else did? So, I guess it was PULLED, eh, as Larry Silverstein said it well ;-) Words and pictures dont lie, you do! BY THE WAY, GOOGLE DOESNT HAVE THAT FOOTAGE I LINKED YOU, THEY BRING IT DOWN SOON AFTER. THIS VIDEO IS FROM A DIFFERENT WEBSITE, AND A FULL VERSION ACTUALLY.

thats right. because in a climate of "terror attack" silverstein would have the final word on what was to happen and all

yes, so the BBC made a fucking mistake. why does everything have to be more than meets the eye to you people? what is wrong with you, honestly?

you post this bullshit, then dont even offer the simplest of plausible explanations for the HOW and WHY the BBC got wind of anything secret. we're just meant to accept that so-called prior knowledge was imparted to them by the shady powers that be.

you'd all be more convincing if you could actually explain in some kind of rational way, exactly how these things come to pass instead of crying "conspiracy" at every anomaly from that day.

the simple fact is everybody knew that WTC7 was going to collapse. thats why they pulled the fire crew out, thats why they prevented anyone from going near it FOR SEVERAL HOURS before it collapsed. that someone might have reported that it had collapsed ahead of time is hardly noteworthy. but you'll all grasp this straw like you have all the other innocuous occurences you see the devil behind.

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In case you think they got it out of context - the building was standing since the morning's attacks, and quite coincidentally it was in the evening that media like BBC got the heads up that WTC 7 is going down. Hmmm ... look at the time frame too. Thats not a coincidence, the information was fed to BBC, who aired it too soon than what it was intended to be. If only they did the same thing for the two main WTC buildings, the warning, so that at least most people could have been evacuated and we would have had less casualties ... fucking bastards - the media was given the message, but not the people. Ummm, they evacuated people from ALL neighbouring buildings, and most of them stand still to the day. But the WTC complex of these all buildings went down. And I dont think its a coincidence of BBC and actual building going down happened almost at the same time, I mean is BBC some kind of psychic news media?

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Originally posted by Magnetonium If only they did the same thing for the two main WTC buildings, the warning, so that at least most people could have been evacuated and we would have had less casualties ... fucking bastards - the media was given the message, but not the people.

yeah, whatever you say. the government risked everything to tip off the BBC ahead of time.

man, the illogical crap you guys are forced to believe so that the smaller details make some semblance of sense is truly incredible.

i know if i was designing a top secret attack the media would be the first id let know all about it! you know, so i could keep it secret and all! hahahahahahahaha.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN yeah, whatever you say. the government risked everything to tip off the BBC ahead of time. man, the illogical crap you guys are forced to believe so that the smaller details make some semblance of sense is truly incredible. i know if i was designing a top secret attack the media would be the first id let know all about it! you know, so i could keep it secret and all! hahahahahahahaha.

In the video, the reporter clearly says "the salomon brothers building HAS JUST collapsed" meaning very recently. And in recent time after the lady reporter was cut off, the building did go down. You think they were guessing? You think they pulled the straw out of the hat? You think they made the story up for the sake of having fun? Is 9/11 a joke that BBC wanted to play, many hours after the original buildings went down and then all of a sudden BBC decides to choose that the building collapsed while all signs point to that its nowhere near collapse? Common sense is your enemy, 6 hours after the attack, only the government and media knew the building was going to collapse. LOL, from fire??? Pffft, give me a break - the report says that FIRE CAUSED WTC7 to collapse, not your weakened structure butthead.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium In the video, the reporter clearly says "the salomon brothers building HAS JUST collapsed" meaning very recently. And in recent time after the lady reporter was cut off, the building did go down. You think they were guessing? You think they pulled the straw out of the hat? You think they made the story up for the sake of having fun? Is 9/11 a joke that BBC wanted to play, many hours after the original buildings went down and then all of a sudden BBC decides to choose that the building collapsed while all signs point to that its nowhere near collapse? Common sense is your enemy, 6 hours after the attack, only the government and media knew the building was going to collapse. LOL, from fire??? Pffft, give me a break - the report says that FIRE CAUSED WTC7 to collapse, not your weakened structure butthead.

fuck youre an idiot.

firstly, the reporter (shock horror!) made a mistake. who knows what was happening at ground zero. it was chaos. perhaps they confused it with the mariott hotel building. i dont know. but the idea that the govt tipped off the media is beyond stupid.

no, i dont think they were guessing. i think they made a mistake reporting facts about a building that EVERYONE with any expertise in the area knew was gonna happen.

"only the government and media" knew? what the fuck are you talking about halfwit? the fucking FIREFIGHTERS FUCKING KNEW HOURS BEFOREHAND. you know- the guys standing right next to it, fighting the damned fires? the guys responsible for the clean up and rescue? they stopped fighting the fires in the building in early afternoon as it was a lost cause. theres a plethora of evidence out there to show this, if you crazy fuckheads would bother to look.

bullshit. the combination of fire AND the weakened structure caused the building to give way.

but hey, youre the one that dismissed fire smoke from WTC7 as merely the dustcloud from WTC1&2, even though that shot was taken HOURS later.

you people are so full of shit.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN fuck youre an idiot. ...beyond stupid. .what the fuck are you talking about halfwit? the fucking FIREFIGHTERS FUCKING KNEW HOURS BEFOREHAND. if you crazy fuckheads would bother to look. bullshit. you people are so full of shit.

LOL, you've got the most convincing tone and choice of words PKC .

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN fuck youre an idiot. firstly, the reporter (shock horror!) made a mistake. who knows what was happening at ground zero. it was chaos. perhaps they confused it with the mariott hotel building. i dont know. but the idea that the govt tipped off the media is beyond stupid. no, i dont think they were guessing. i think they made a mistake reporting facts about a building that EVERYONE with any expertise in the area knew was gonna happen. "only the government and media" knew? what the fuck are you talking about halfwit? the fucking FIREFIGHTERS FUCKING KNEW HOURS BEFOREHAND. you know- the guys standing right next to it, fighting the damned fires? the guys responsible for the clean up and rescue? they stopped fighting the fires in the building in early afternoon as it was a lost cause. theres a plethora of evidence out there to show this, if you crazy fuckheads would bother to look. bullshit. the combination of fire AND the weakened structure caused the building to give way. but hey, youre the one that dismissed fire smoke from WTC7 as merely the dustcloud from WTC1&2, even though that shot was taken HOURS later. you people are so full of shit.

Problem with things like this is...people are going to cite sources from the camp which THEY BELIEVE is correct. So the liberals will always cite liberal conspiracy sources.

It's not a cover up...but I'm tired of arguing.

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Originally posted by xstalkrx Problem with things like this is...people are going to cite sources from the camp which THEY BELIEVE is correct. So the liberals will always cite liberal conspiracy sources. It's not a cover up...but I'm tired of arguing.

And the other side will always site official conspiracy sources. Since when was Steven Jones a liberal conspiracy theorist? He's [was] a Physics PHD at BYU who actually voted for Bush in 2000. And after he published his paper investigating the WTC collapse, he first was banned from teaching, and then got kicked out of the University altogether. Many if not most of the people proposing the controlled demolition theory are actually conservatives. So there you go.

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Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller