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It's cool that u guys workout, so do I, and am pretty big...but I think you have no life and are a pussy if u start to pick at urself because u dont have a perfectly defined stomache or lose weight on purpose till the point where ur skinny and can see ur internal organs , thats not being ripped or getting jacked, thats being a freakin lady-boy...a pussy, a real guy can have somewhat of a gut, drink beer, eat all he wants still woop ass and get all the pussy he wants. Why someone would pay so much attention to detail is crazy, u must be obsessed and insecure that ur fat and no girl will like u...who does that? Girls like guys that are bigger rather than skinny from my expereience....skinny "toned" guys are panzies... Workout but stop being a wank toss... with all these scientific caloric intake diets and shit, all u need is protein, and maintain a healthy dose of carbs to feed the energy. My uncle from Poland, doesnt go on no diet, doesnt mess around with any GMC wannabe crap, all the guy does is workout and eat meat..mostly chicken and is freakin massive, he can bench 440. Thats ripped, and thats a man.
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