I just watch TV and do like 20 minutes of crunches (the kind where you lift both your neck and ass off the floor). Just watch a good movie or tv show, hold each one for 5 seconds, and do them until you cry.

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Just curious.

I hear protein is mostly for the skinny's wanting to gain weight, and creatine gives a watery muscle (eh).


Which way is best to help aid in building muscle, but still allows to burn the fat you normaly would.

JaY

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Originally posted by JayD Just curious. I hear protein is mostly for the skinny's wanting to gain weight, and creatine gives a watery muscle (eh). Which way is best to help aid in building muscle, but still allows to burn the fat you normaly would. JaY

Niether of the two directly affect fat loss but...

you can use both of them to help build muscle which will in turn allow you to burn more calories.

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yeah you need both...it's not like creatine replaces protein in your diet. from my experience...creatine seemed to help my strength and i suppose that would translate into more muscle since you are working harder to lift a heavier weight...put you'll always need protein to help rebuild those muscles after they've been worked...

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Originally posted by Remiks It's cool that u guys workout, so do I, and am pretty big...but I think you have no life and are a pussy if u start to pick at urself because u dont have a perfectly defined stomache or lose weight on purpose till the point where ur skinny and can see ur internal organs , thats not being ripped or getting jacked, thats being a freakin lady-boy...a pussy, a real guy can have somewhat of a gut, drink beer, eat all he wants still woop ass and get all the pussy he wants. Why someone would pay so much attention to detail is crazy, u must be obsessed and insecure that ur fat and no girl will like u...who does that? Girls like guys that are bigger rather than skinny from my expereience....skinny "toned" guys are panzies... Workout but stop being a wank toss... with all these scientific caloric intake diets and shit, all u need is protein, and maintain a healthy dose of carbs to feed the energy. My uncle from Poland, doesnt go on no diet, doesnt mess around with any GMC wannabe crap, all the guy does is workout and eat meat..mostly chicken and is freakin massive, he can bench 440. Thats ripped, and thats a man.

when you stop striving for perfection, you might as well be dead.

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Originally posted by JayD Just curious. I hear protein is mostly for the skinny's wanting to gain weight, and creatine gives a watery muscle (eh). Which way is best to help aid in building muscle, but still allows to burn the fat you normaly would. JaY

Here is how your body burns fat:

1) the natural way: Fasting. When your body gets into a severe lack of food it burns muscle (protein) for a few days (2 for women, 3 for men) after that it switches to fat in a process called Ketosis. This is where your body metabolizes the fat and your urine will take on a ketoned/glycemic nature. You can buy these strips at pharmacy to see when its happening. You lose 1lb a day of fat after that.

2) Go on a no carb "Atkins" diet. Working out and eating the protein will make it grow muscularly, but the lack of carbs and glycogen will make it metabolize the fat to get there. What most people dont understand is that No-Carb diets are only for a 2-3 week period. After that it causes many heart, liver, and kidney problems.

So in answer. I would eat a piece of toast (when you toast bread it is easier to digest and better for you) 30 minutes before work out for some energy. Then I would focus on eating Fish (easiest most accessible source of protein in the natural world) veggies, and fruits for your energy and muscle building needs. The supplementary powders and drinks will have tons of calories but if you are looking to turn that fat into muscle you are gonna have to limit the intake. Because, you pretty much gotta have fat to grow. There is a reason body builders lose 40 lbs before shows. Its because its pure fat, and they arent really gonna get any bigger at that point. They have to accept where they are and ditch the fat.

So if you want to lean up and get muscle, yeah, its gonna be a limited caloric intake of 70% protein and then working out. If you want to focus on muscle growth dont do cardio and stick to the weights...

but if you want specific indications as to how many calories and such Id need to know weight and approx fat % right now.

ok night of day 2, ill post morning of day 3 pics tomorrow...morning hehe


Abs beginning to poke through what used to be a thin layer of fat! woot

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you can barely see the lines as the two strips begin to emerge...


cant wait for day 8 :P

edit:: The first one is a morning pic, and second one a bloated night pic hehe

like I said the true comparison will be tomorrow morning

had 2 beers tonight, i feel so fat! brings my calories up to 1200 @@@

Thinnnererrr....

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Originally posted by Remiks It's cool that u guys workout, so do I, and am pretty big...but I think you have no life and are a pussy if u start to pick at urself because u dont have a perfectly defined stomache or lose weight on purpose till the point where ur skinny and can see ur internal organs , thats not being ripped or getting jacked, thats being a freakin lady-boy...a pussy, a real guy can have somewhat of a gut, drink beer, eat all he wants still woop ass and get all the pussy he wants. Why someone would pay so much attention to detail is crazy, u must be obsessed and insecure that ur fat and no girl will like u...who does that? Girls like guys that are bigger rather than skinny from my expereience....skinny "toned" guys are panzies... Workout but stop being a wank toss... with all these scientific caloric intake diets and shit, all u need is protein, and maintain a healthy dose of carbs to feed the energy. My uncle from Poland, doesnt go on no diet, doesnt mess around with any GMC wannabe crap, all the guy does is workout and eat meat..mostly chicken and is freakin massive, he can bench 440. Thats ripped, and thats a man.

Couldn't have said it better. Supplement companies make money from these people who believe that some pill will bring out the extra definition in their biceps or shoulders, that's just ridiculous. I was in the supplement store today and I couldn't believe my eyes, half of that shit is useless and very expensive. There was this bottle of pills that said, "new and improved formula, advanced carbohydrate delivery complex". What the hell is that supposed to mean? The key is to just get off the sofa and lift some weights. And if you are lifting to get girls than you are wasting your time.

at first (highschool) I lifted cuz i thought chicks would dig it, and then I realized they actually dont like huge men at all because theyre scary or some bullshit. Im in here to feel good and have fun and get chemicals flowin. and supplement stores are ridiculous. Everyone on earth wants a magic pill :\ I usually eat whatever I want, and however much of it I want. Im just trying to get crazy thin this week or I wouldnt be obsessing haha

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Originally posted by Citizen X Couldn't have said it better. Supplement companies make money from these people who believe that some pill will bring out the extra definition in their biceps or shoulders, that's just ridiculous. I was in the supplement store today and I couldn't believe my eyes, half of that shit is useless and very expensive. There was this bottle of pills that said, "new and improved formula, advanced carbohydrate delivery complex". What the hell is that supposed to mean? The key is to just get off the sofa and lift some weights. And if you are lifting to get girls than you are wasting your time.

i agree that a lot of supplements out there don't do shit...but that still doesn't mean that balancing diet to obtain results doesn't work...which is what most of the talk in this thread has revolved around...probably with the exception of the people with creatine questions...