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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN given how ridiculously shite the first edition of loose change was, i dont understand how you could possible fix it. you cant polish a turd!

Funny, I could have said something quite similar about popular mechanics BS analysis but I don't think there's a "version 2" of it so not entirely.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Funny, I could have said something quite similar about popular mechanics BS analysis but I don't think there's a "version 2" of it so not entirely.

well, "screw loose change" was quite enough to "smackdown" loose change.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Thanks, but I already have that. I'd rather do my own research than watch documentaries though, not that they don't have their place and provide some useful info.

It wasn't for you. It was for anyone lurking that might want to snatch a copy.

There are other videos out there all with their differences on what happened that day on 9/11.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN well, "screw loose change" was quite enough to "smackdown" loose change.

LOL, if you insist.

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Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

the dude from loose change told the guy from Popular Mechanics he was a liar!
When a man gets down to business like that, he speaks the truth!

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN i didnt bump it, crazy mofo m.johan (who should stick to beating his women or something) did.

I seriously doubt he's anything like the ignorant stereo type you're imposing on him. Maybe you should stick to using and fucking as many women as you can and never commiting to a single one and leaving multiple women you impregnate to raise the children as single mothers...











Now, I only said that so you realize what an ass you are at times, very unecessarily too I might add, with a response that somewhat mirros yours.

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN a plane definitely didnt hit the pentagon! yeah! go get 'em super sleuth!!

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN i didnt bump it, crazy mofo m.johan (who should stick to beating his women or something) did. yeah, maybe im a little obsessed, but we all have our favourite topics (or anti-favourites)

FTW ..........


i don't beat my woman u moTHERfuc@@@@@


This's ur FUCKING US Department of Defence who released these videos



Not my words

WTF

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z I seriously doubt he's anything like the ignorant stereo type you're imposing on him. Maybe you should stick to using and fucking as many women as you can and never commiting to a single one and leaving multiple women you impregnate to raise the children as single mothers... Now, I only said that so you realize what an ass you are at times, very unecessarily too I might add, with a response that somewhat mirros yours.

honestly shaolin, youre such a baby at times!

oh, and last time i checked the bible didnt condone "Maybe you should stick to using and fucking as many women as you can and never commiting to a single one and leaving multiple women you impregnate to raise the children as single mothers..." so your parallel doesn't work nearly as well. oh and women arent second-class citizens in australia like they are in much of the middle east. ner ni ner!

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z I seriously doubt he's anything like the ignorant stereo type you're imposing on him. Maybe you should stick to using and fucking as many women as you can and never commiting to a single one and leaving multiple women you impregnate to raise the children as single mothers... Now, I only said that so you realize what an ass you are at times, very unecessarily too I might add, with a response that somewhat mirros yours.

honestly shaolin, youre such a baby at times!

oh, and last time i checked the bible didnt condone "Maybe you should stick to using and fucking as many women as you can and never commiting to a single one and leaving multiple women you impregnate to raise the children as single mothers..." so your parallel doesn't work nearly as well. oh and women arent second-class citizens in australia like they are in much of the middle east. ner ni ner!

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN honestly shaolin, youre such a baby at times! oh, and last time i checked the bible didnt condone "Maybe you should stick to using and fucking as many women as you can and never commiting to a single one and leaving multiple women you impregnate to raise the children as single mothers..." so your parallel doesn't work nearly as well. oh and women arent second-class citizens in australia like they are in much of the middle east. ner ni ner!

LOL, you're no Christian buddy! And it wasn't a reference to Christian values, the west has largely forgotton those. I know several christians, ones who're not hypocrites or crazy fundies, and you certainly aren't anything like them, and by that I mean, you don't have Chrisitan values. Anyways, didn't you despise religion and just about everything about it as you see it ?

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z LOL, you're no Christian buddy! And it wasn't a reference to Christian values, the west has largely forgotton those. I know several christians, ones who're not hypocrites or crazy fundies, and you certainly aren't anything like them, and by that I mean, you don't have Chrisitan values. Anyways, didn't you despise religion and just about everything about it as you see it ?

yeah, pretty much

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r After a clear smack down from Popular Mechanics and they're putting something else out?? Capitalism at work!

Popular Mechanics was ripped many times regarding their propaganda hit pieces.

Here is Mark Cuban handing Bill O'Reilly his ass and making it very clear that Popular mechanics is full of shit.


Mark Cuban Exposes O'Reilly Hypocrisy On Radio Broadcast


Hearst yellow journalism devotees Popular Mechanics, NY Post enlisted to debunk 9/11 truth again

Saturday, March 24, 2007


Billionaire Mark Cuban, the owner of the Dallas Mavericks who is set to finance a cinema release of Loose Change narrated by Charlie Sheen, exposed Bill O'Reilly's rampant hypocrisy concerning his coverage of the 9/11 truth movement on the Fox News host's radio show yesterday.

Offering the entire 18 minute segment will probably result in Bill calling on Fox security to pay us a visit so here's a 9 minute clip instead.

O'Reilly admits right off the bat that he has not even seen Loose Change, following in the trend of his fellow debunkers who have already arrived at a judgment without even checking the evidence. Bill's mind is made up! Don't bother him with the facts!

This painfully underscores exactly what this whole charade represents, not an open debate on the evidence, but a cynical attempt to smear Charlie Sheen, Rosie O'Donnell and Mark Cuban.

O'Reilly wastes no time in doing so by associating Loose Change with "Nazi propaganda."

O'Reilly's claim might hold more weight if Dylan Avery were in control of a powerful industrial country, ran its media and commanded its standing army, but last time I checked Dylan still lives in upstate New York with his friends and a dog called Justice.

"The security in the World Trade Center would have been impossible for anybody to have set charges," claims O'Reilly, oblivious to the fact that, as World Trade Center worker Scott Forbes, a senior database administrator for Fiduciary Trust, Inc. confirms, power downs and evacuation exercises in the towers were taking place on the weekend before 9/11, giving ample opportunity for incendiary devices to be placed. WTC workers Ben Fountain and William Rodriquez also confirmed this.

At this point Popular Mechanics editor-in-chief James Meigs chimes in to state that the impact of the jetliners and the fires they caused were enough to bring down the towers, a claim that is completely contradicted by the very design architects of the World Trade Center, who are all on the record as saying they designed the building to handle multiple impacts of large jetliners.

Meigs has an illustrious pedigree that puts him right up there with the professors and scholars that have studied 9/11 and the architects who designed the WTC - I just can't decide which title to give prominence, his position on the editorial staff of that bastion of scientific empiricism Entertainment Weekly or the equally respected Video Review.



Popular Mechanics is owned by Hearst Publishing. As fictionalized in Orson Welles' acclaimed film Citizen Kane, William Randolph Hearst (pictured) wrote the book on cronyism and yellow journalism and Popular Mechanics hasn't bucked that tradition.

Enter the term "yellow journalism" in the Encyclopedia Britannica and one of the first entries you will see is William Randolph Hearst. The listing attributes to Hearst a legacy of "distorted" and "lurid" reporting, and cites him as being hugely influential in fanning the flames of the Spanish-American war as a result of his newspaper's sensationalist yellow journalism.

Popular Mechanics is owned by the very corporation that defined yellow journalism!

During the interview, O'Reilly lauds Popular Mechanics as politically independent and non-partisan, "Popular Mechanics is not a political magazine, it's a technical magazine," when in fact it was darling of the Republican party John McCain who penned the foreword to Popular Mechanics' Debunking 9/11 Myths book.

In the foreword, McCain re-hashes an abhorrent amount of Neo-Con detritus that relies solely on 9/11 having happened exactly as the government claims it did. "We liberated Afghanistan from the murderous rule of the Taliban, our attackers' proud hosts. We chased Al Qaeda around the globe," barks the Arizona Senator.

Does this sound politically neutral to you?

Returning to the radio broadcast, O'Reilly brings on Mark Cuban, the billionaire owner of the Dallas Mavericks who plans to mass distribute Loose Change, and immediately makes an argument that Loose Change should be banned just as some books should be banned. Cuban points out that O'Reilly's insistence that "lunacy not be given legitimacy" by affording it any attention is contradicted by the very fact that O'Reilly is covering the controversy on his radio and TV show.

O'Reilly persists with his argument of "marginalizing cranks" which Cuban refutes by asking "how many shows have you spent on this topic?" O'Reilly claims he has only done one show on 9/11 conspiracies which is patently false. O'Reilly has attacked both Jim Fetzer and Kevin Barrett numerous times on his television show.

Cuban's appeal to freedom of speech and his involvement in putting out previous documentaries in association with the Republican party gives strong credence to his argument that people need to hear all sides of the argument, in contrast to O'Reilly's shrill demands for censorship of a film that he hasn't even bothered to watch.

O'Reilly then plays the obligatory Holocaust card to claim Loose Change is insulting to the victims, a myth that we have exposed a dozen times in the past. The representative of the largest 9/11 family victim's group, Bill Doyle who also lost his son in the attacks, is on the record as saying half of his members now have grave questions about what happened on 9/11.

"He's finished," barks O'Reilly, echoing the threat made on his TV show that narrating Loose Change will end Charlie Sheen's career, a baseless assumption considering Sheen's career has only achieved more prominence in the year since he went public on 9/11 to the Alex Jones Show.

Repeating his mafia-like warning of "I'm looking out for him (Sheen) and I'm looking out for you too," O'Reilly concludes the interview by urging Cuban to rethink the project, stating "there's a lot of pain involved in this kind of a situation." With rhetoric like this, O'Reilly wouldn't have looked out of place had he been born into the Genovese Cosa Nostra family.