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Originally posted by Purple Big_boss is an ALT ID.

Thanks for heads up. I can now sleep better...

on a side note, I once mistook you for at least a semi-intelligent being. Reading over your posts I see how myopic it was of me. Oh well, that's another thing I won't lose any sleep over.

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No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don’t want to die to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life’s change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry to be so dramatic, but it is quite true.

--Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)

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Originally posted by tathi "We learn from history that we learn nothing from history." -George Bernard Shaw This recent Israeli State-Sanctioned Terrorism has ensured that the conflict will go on for another few decades :/

You forgot another UN resolution:

Resolution 6969: "deplores Israel for existing. period. P.S. Death to Israel!"

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No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don’t want to die to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life’s change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry to be so dramatic, but it is quite true.

--Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)

In 1968 the LA times ran this article, written by Eric Hoffer, a former longshoreman and non-Jewish American social philosopher. Born in 1902, Hoffer died in 1983, after writing nine books and winning the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Although written 38 years ago, the following is as timely and applicable today as then.

by Eric Hoffer
May 26, 1968


The Jews are a peculiar people: things permitted to other nations are forbidden to the Jews. Other nations drive out thousands, even millions of people, and there is no refugee problem. Russia did it, Poland and Czechoslovakia did it. Turkey threw out a million Greeks and Algeria a million Frenchman. Indonesia threw out heaven knows how many Chinese and no one says a word about refugees. But in the case of Israel displaced Arabs have become eternal refugees. Everyone insists that Israel must take back every single Arab.

Arnold Toynbee calls the displacement of the Arabs an atrocity greater than any committed by the Nazis.

Other nations when victorious on the battlefield dictate peace terms. But when Israel is victorious, it must sue for peace. Everyone expects the Jews to be the only real Christians in this world.

Other nations — when they are defeated — survive and recover, but should Israel be defeated it would be destroyed. Had Nasser triumphed last June he would have wiped Israel off the map and no one would have lifted a finger to save the Jews. No commitment to the Jews by any government, including our own, is worth the paper it is written on.

There is a cry of outrage all over the world when people die in Vietnam or when two Negroes are executed in Rhodesia. But when Hitler slaughtered Jews no one remonstrated with him. The Swedes, who are ready to break off diplomatic relations with America because of what we did in Vietnam, did not let out a peep when Hitler was slaughtering Jews. They sent Hitler choice iron ore and ball bearings, and serviced his troop trains to Norway.

The Jews are alone in the world. If Israel survives it will be solely because of Jewish efforts. And Jewish resources. Yet at this moment Israel is our only reliable and unconditional ally. We can rely more on Israel than Israel can rely on us. And one has only to imagine what would have happened last summer had the Arabs and their Russian backers won the war to realize how vital the survival of Israel is to American and the West in general.

I have a premonition that will not leave me; as it goes with Israel so will it go with all of us. Should Israel perish the holocaust will be upon us.

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No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don’t want to die to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life’s change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry to be so dramatic, but it is quite true.

--Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)

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Originally posted by emc^2 Thanks for heads up. I can now sleep better... on a side note, I once mistook you for at least a semi-intelligent being. Reading over your posts I see how myopic it was of me. Oh well, that's another thing I won't lose any sleep over.

Ok Einstein.

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Wise set of instructions:

If for yet another time someone is trying to convince you of Israeli's disproportionate response, please do the following:

1. Engage your oponent in a conversation and as him/her if they believe in response by force.

2. When they reply "no", ask "why?"

3. Wait until he/she says something along the lines of "because that would lead to additional innocent casualties, additional aggression/violence and escalation of... "

4. As your oponent reaches a middle of the phrase - punch your oponent in the face

5. As your oponent tries to hit you in retaliation, bring his/her attention to the fact that his/her responce contradicts their declared beliefs (as they expressed above) and would lead to additional aggression and escalation of the situation.

6. Wait until your oponent agrees with this argument and agrees not to respond with additional violence.

7. Hit him/her again, this time even harder

8. Repeat steps 5 - 7, until your oponent finally realizes that sometimes you have to retaliate.

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No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don’t want to die to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life’s change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry to be so dramatic, but it is quite true.

--Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)

nice one ^^

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Originally posted by Purple Big_boss is an ALT ID.

And how do you come to the conclusion of that? Yeah, am I you purple?

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Originally posted by emc^2 Dunya and Big_boss, you two love birds should stop arguing and get together - you'd make one hell of a nice, clean, purely retarded family of antisemites. Why are you fighting? If both of you got to fucking sooner, this forum would be better with two cretins out of the game - at least for time being. So, get fuckin!

That is funny coming from you because you probably do not even understand your own handle.

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Originally posted by emc^2 Wise set of instructions: If for yet another time someone is trying to convince you of Israeli's disproportionate response, please do the following: 1. Engage your oponent in a conversation and as him/her if they believe in response by force. 2. When they reply "no", ask "why?" 3. Wait until he/she says something along the lines of "because that would lead to additional innocent casualties, additional aggression/violence and escalation of... " 4. As your oponent reaches a middle of the phrase - punch your oponent in the face 5. As your oponent tries to hit you in retaliation, bring his/her attention to the fact that his/her responce contradicts their declared beliefs (as they expressed above) and would lead to additional aggression and escalation of the situation. 6. Wait until your oponent agrees with this argument and agrees not to respond with additional violence. 7. Hit him/her again, this time even harder 8. Repeat steps 5 - 7, until your oponent finally realizes that sometimes you have to retaliate.

I'm going to remember this one.

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Originally posted by venomX I think it's been proven beyond doubt that no side in this conflict is right. No side in the damn region is right. They have all done at some time or another harm to each other to not say much horrible things. That being said i applaud how is Israel is dealing with the Qana incident and giving the 48hour pause.

...and that's why BOTH sides need to be melted with nuclear abomination!

That way the muslim & jewish people (I HARSHLY generalize) in here can shut up. Seriously. Your sacred land will be gone. And you'll be left with the reality that DIRT doesn't mean shit. And it's both sides spirituality and community as a people that matter.Not where your people happen to be!

And neither side in here seems to get that.

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