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fuct4less
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Registered: May 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by Az
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over 11,000 people are murdered with guns each year in america
whereas the combined total for the UK, Germany, Australia and Canada is below 300....


lemme explain something to you that probably many of you are not familiar with: GANGS. here in america we have bloods vs. crips, and chaps vs. scraps.
these are a bunch of poor people who have tons to be pissed off at. they are forced to live in the projects, they are discriminated against cuz of color, they cant get work, etc. they dont take shit so what do they do? they go fuck up shit! they dont give a fuck who you are if you talk shit then they fuckin shoot you.


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Neo nEro
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Another thing on calling Bush an idiot, stupid etc. Just because he has a different political view than you doesn't make him stupid.


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occrider
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quote:
Originally posted by joeh152
My point in that being that no other country would ever be able to have recourse over america because america has nukes and they are not allowed them....

That said i dont want north korea having nukes just to balence it out either


But can you see America using nukes? Why would we ever want to? The only time we would ever use nukes is in response to a N. Korean or a chinese nuclear attack. Nuclear weapons are an impractical tool for developed nations to use ... for an underdeveloped nation however, they are perfect for getting what they want.


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joeh
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Originally posted by Neo nEro
Believing that he fixed the elections and the they were fixed are 2 completely different fucking things. until i see some proof that they were fixed, they weren't.


how can i proove that?

can you proove that saddam didnt get 100% of the vote????

of course not - just because something can't be prooved doesnt mean that it wasnt obvious.


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jon
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Leeds

quote:
Originally posted by joeh152
My entire point if full.


Reasons for attacking iraq:

Saddam fixed 'elections'
.....many say bush fixed the election

no he didnt, it all came down to a fault in one state in the way votes where counted from some machine i do belive
quote:

Saddam may have WMD
.....American certainly has them

as does the Uk, russia, france, germany, and many other countries
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Saddam may have funded Terrorist groups
.....But we know america has in the past

as did the former USSR during the cold war as well....
quote:

So for the same reasons that america and the UK invaded Iraq, another country would now be justified in invading America??????


ask the Iraq people in a years time once the war etc has all setteled down and ask them would they prefer life under Saddams rule or life as it would be then?
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of course not... but then again i dont think iraq should have been invaded.....


thats your own point of view and at least in the UK your actually alowed that (in Iraq before the recent war you wasnt allowed a point of view, apart from Saddams...)


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Neo nEro
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quote:
Originally posted by joeh152
how can i proove that?

can you proove that saddam didnt get 100% of the vote????

of course not - just because something can't be prooved doesnt mean that it wasnt obvious.


Saddam did get 100% of the vote. He probably was the only one on the ballot.

Tell me how it was so obvious then.


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This thread is retarded. The only thing it's going to accomplish is to get people pissed off at each other. Not like anybody is going to change their minds here


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TuanAnh213
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quote:
Originally posted by occrider
This thread is retarded. The only thing it's going to accomplish is to get people pissed off at each other. Not like anybody is going to change their minds here



originally this thread was about how americans were dumb, unfriendly, the same old bullshit but now its changed into different feelings on the war


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fuct4less
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quote:
Originally posted by TuanAnh213
as far as handing over guns to fucking retards...it's as if you think some anarchist trench-coat wearing fucktard goes on violent killing sprees at schools every single day here...it's not our fault guns are readily available in stores to criminals, robbers, etc it's our government's fault for not tightening gun control laws...


please dont label these people as anarchists... real anarchism doesnt have anything to do shooting random people, it usually doesnt have anything to do with shooting people at all.


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jon
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quote:
Originally posted by occrider
This thread is retarded. The only thing it's going to accomplish is to get people pissed off at each other. Not like anybody is going to change their minds here


well most america bashers will use the war as an argument, as they dont actualy have a original valid argument of their own...


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quote:
Originally posted by TuanAnh213
originally this thread was about how americans were dumb, unfriendly, the same old bullshit but now its changed into different feelings on the war


LOL well it started off as being retarded and it seems like it's continuing well in the tradition.


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mndeg
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: IL, United States

quote:
Originally posted by TuanAnh213
1.Bush was elected through the ELECTORAL COLLEGE DING DING DING!! just because a candidate gets majority votes from the citizens doesn't necessarily mean he'll become the president...it only affects what the voters in the electoral college think...and im sure bush did not threaten the lives of these electoral college voters if they don't vote for him so there is something called the electoral college but tehre's no use in explaining that to you since you won't understand obviously

2.Yes we have WMD, along with india, russia, china, france, great britain, pakistan, israel while Iraq doesnt so your question should be should all these countries be liberated of their population

3.unless if the government was to tap every phone line in the united states, invade the entire population's privacy, monitor everyone's whereabouts and movements these sorts of things happen and there was nothing that could've been done prior to 9/11

thank you come again

9/11 could of been EASILY prevented


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