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DigiNut
You kids get off my lawn!



Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

quote:
Originally posted by sothis
...

You're making a good point, of course, I'm just not sure how it contradicts mine. For one thing, I'm not saying intelligence is a negative (c'mon, we haven't talked a lot but I KNOW you know me better than that). Nor am I saying that any kind of sensitivity is a sign of weakness. And I definitely don't recall dumping on random and wacky (there is no better thing to be - the less predictable a person is, the more interesting they are).

What I'm saying is, as a guy, if your idea of a pickup is to stare at a girl misty-eyed for 30 minutes, then finally get the courage to walk up to her, tell her she's cute (as if she hasn't heard this 12 times already today), and ask her what she thinks of Half-Life 2, you're going to come off as a trifle weird. And yeah, being in computer science probably does make you a little different in that regard... so for your case, picture a complete stranger asking you what you think of the current political situation in the middle east. It's just not something you do.

If it's random enough to show some creativity ("good god, the 3rd column of your C program is the ancient Chinese formula for Pong Yiao tea, the aphrodesiac that emperor Zhengzong used to make his subjects into sex slaves! How did you find that!?") then maybe, but that's going out on a limb and the end result is going to be equally unpredictable.

Kim, you've gotta tell me that the guy you're with had some measure of self-confidence when you started out. I'm not going to believe that he's a quiet loner in your class who you decided on the spot to start making out with in the lab while he was writing Perl.

I'm pointing out the obvious folley of the guys that are proud of their 'morals' and use them as an excuse to never try to get the girl. I'm concentrating on my education, I'm not the flirty type, I don't want to pressure for sex, I'm looking for the RIGHT girl, blah blah blah blah. Also, that sarcastic comment was partly based on some personal familiarity with the person it was directed to. But the point is, there's a difference between the way a relationship works when you've been together for 6 months, and the way a relationship works when you're total strangers. If a guy isn't a little bit cocky in the beginning, then why would a girl assume that he's got anything to offer?

It's the same as applying for a job, in a way, once you get that job you should work hard and be loyal to the company, but when you're first applying - you've gotta sell yourself! You have to show that THEY need YOU, that you could work anywhere else in the world and that of all those companies, you're choosing them.

Isn't that, after all, what makes a person feel "special?"

Be confident, not arrogant; be a challenge, not an asshole. How does this show any sign of bitterness? Moderation is almost always the best answer. Being a desperate panting puppy dog is no better than being a total prick. IMO, anyway.


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victor
P A R T YY? coz we gotta!



Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
well i'm gonna bust your bubble by letting you know that the only kind of female a guy is going to attract by playing the whole asshole/hard to get role is an insecure and shallow girl (great for one night stands and things of that nature). real women want a man with brains and a big heart who will be good to them without turning into a doormat. it's all about doing things in moderation to attract the opposite sex. eventually (and hopefully), women grow out of the asshole attraction. i'm guilty of it too....but only when i was in high school and shortly thereafter. moral of my story is that real women like "nice guys" and they don't always finish last...at least not with me.


im nice (apparently...)
so far... absolutely NO LUCK!!!

Old Post Oct-24-2003 16:20  India
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sothis
Cyborg Queen



Registered: Aug 2001
Location: seattle, washington

diginut: well then this was a prime example of me misunderstanding your point.

quote:
I'm not going to believe that he's a quiet loner in your class who you decided on the spot to start making out with in the lab while he was writing Perl.


this seriously made my day. hahahaha ^_^

(note: the reason why i misunderstood is because you seemed to give that response to someone who was talking about how her boyfriend IS (similar to mine).. as opposed to saying how her boyfriend managed to snag her. so i made the corollation between how the guy ACTS, not his pick up strategy)

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victor
P A R T YY? coz we gotta!



Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
You're making a good point, of course, I'm just not sure how it contradicts mine. For one thing, I'm not saying intelligence is a negative (c'mon, we haven't talked a lot but I KNOW you know me better than that). Nor am I saying that any kind of sensitivity is a sign of weakness. And I definitely don't recall dumping on random and wacky (there is no better thing to be - the less predictable a person is, the more interesting they are).

What I'm saying is, as a guy, if your idea of a pickup is to stare at a girl misty-eyed for 30 minutes, then finally get the courage to walk up to her, tell her she's cute (as if she hasn't heard this 12 times already today), and ask her what she thinks of Half-Life 2, you're going to come off as a trifle weird. And yeah, being in computer science probably does make you a little different in that regard... so for your case, picture a complete stranger asking you what you think of the current political situation in the middle east. It's just not something you do.

If it's random enough to show some creativity ("good god, the 3rd column of your C program is the ancient Chinese formula for Pong Yiao tea, the aphrodesiac that emperor Zhengzong used to make his subjects into sex slaves! How did you find that!?") then maybe, but that's going out on a limb and the end result is going to be equally unpredictable.

Kim, you've gotta tell me that the guy you're with had some measure of self-confidence when you started out. I'm not going to believe that he's a quiet loner in your class who you decided on the spot to start making out with in the lab while he was writing Perl.

I'm pointing out the obvious folley of the guys that are proud of their 'morals' and use them as an excuse to never try to get the girl. I'm concentrating on my education, I'm not the flirty type, I don't want to pressure for sex, I'm looking for the RIGHT girl, blah blah blah blah. Also, that sarcastic comment was partly based on some personal familiarity with the person it was directed to. But the point is, there's a difference between the way a relationship works when you've been together for 6 months, and the way a relationship works when you're total strangers. If a guy isn't a little bit cocky in the beginning, then why would a girl assume that he's got anything to offer?

It's the same as applying for a job, in a way, once you get that job you should work hard and be loyal to the company, but when you're first applying - you've gotta sell yourself! You have to show that THEY need YOU, that you could work anywhere else in the world and that of all those companies, you're choosing them.

Isn't that, after all, what makes a person feel "special?"

Be confident, not arrogant; be a challenge, not an asshole. How does this show any sign of bitterness? Moderation is almost always the best answer. Being a desperate panting puppy dog is no better than being a total prick. IMO, anyway.


i totally agree mate!!!!

on one occasion i was super cocky and started talking about how this was just a summer job and i wanted to do this that when i grew up... i got rejected as fuck...

anyways .. now i keep it low... tell a few funny stories ... (a lot of ppl dont know about india and how each state has a different regional language...) ... where was i??? yeah i just try to love it hardcore!!!!!

with chicks it's different... i've totally stopped trying as such and i could walk up to any chick and start talking whether she was the hottest girl or ugly as sin... too much school work,... i just want to get to know ppl and have fun now!!!!

cheers!!!

...

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DigiNut
You kids get off my lawn!



Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

There is one thing I'd like to add to this discussion, which everbody seems to overlook.

The whole dating/mating/pickup (whatever you want to call it) game, is supposed to be FUN! And that sort of relates to what the guy above me said - people see rejection as some sort of heartbreaking experience, but the point is that you're supposed to be having fun in the process. The rejection is like missing the pocket in pool - maybe even missing the ball completely and stabbing air with the cue - okay, so it looks a little stupid but you and your friends get a damn good laugh out of it!

That's why I hate it when people ask me, what, are you some kind of hotshot that thinks he can get any girl he wants? No, of course not, a game's no fun if you always win! "No" isn't all that bad of answer... sometimes in a club it's fun to fuck with the ones that lie about having boyfriends or being gay.


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Swamper
Webmonstah



Registered: Jan 2000
Location: Toronto, Canada

Quality over Quantity - that is key.

It's like some a friend of mine who think it's impressive to get a bunch of phone #s in one night meanwhile none of them are anything special and rarely have an IQ

Listening to him using lines on the phone like:

"Baby I'm like the postman, I call once, I call twice, maybe even three times."

Fucking shoot me.


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DigiNut
You kids get off my lawn!



Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
Listening to him using lines on the phone like:

"Baby I'm like the postman, I call once, I call twice, maybe even three times."

Fucking shoot me.

Bahahaha, a girl who falls for that must be a real catch!

Swamper, you oughta post more often... you're like the Pimp King, I've seen you in action!


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Peter K
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yeh


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Mrs.Spice
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Toronto

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
There is one thing I'd like to add to this discussion, which everbody seems to overlook.

The whole dating/mating/pickup (whatever you want to call it) game, is supposed to be FUN! And that sort of relates to what the guy above me said - people see rejection as some sort of heartbreaking experience, but the point is that you're supposed to be having fun in the process. The rejection is like missing the pocket in pool - maybe even missing the ball completely and stabbing air with the cue - okay, so it looks a little stupid but you and your friends get a damn good laugh out of it!

That's why I hate it when people ask me, what, are you some kind of hotshot that thinks he can get any girl he wants? No, of course not, a game's no fun if you always win! "No" isn't all that bad of answer... sometimes in a club it's fun to fuck with the ones that lie about having boyfriends or being gay.


You forgot about being in love and breaking up.


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USMC_Greg
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
There is one thing I'd like to add to this discussion, which everbody seems to overlook.

The whole dating/mating/pickup (whatever you want to call it) game, is supposed to be FUN! And that sort of relates to what the guy above me said - people see rejection as some sort of heartbreaking experience, but the point is that you're supposed to be having fun in the process. The rejection is like missing the pocket in pool - maybe even missing the ball completely and stabbing air with the cue - okay, so it looks a little stupid but you and your friends get a damn good laugh out of it!

That's why I hate it when people ask me, what, are you some kind of hotshot that thinks he can get any girl he wants? No, of course not, a game's no fun if you always win! "No" isn't all that bad of answer... sometimes in a club it's fun to fuck with the ones that lie about having boyfriends or being gay.




That's a good analogy. Motivational :-)


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DigiNut
You kids get off my lawn!



Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

quote:
Originally posted by Mrs.Spice
You forgot about being in love and breaking up.

I didn't "forget" about anything... what does that have to do with the topic?


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blazed it
Chavtastic!



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Beijing

quote:
Originally posted by Mrs.Spice
Oh and whats up with guys who get comfortable really fast and fart and belch? That's a big pet peeve of mine. You guys can't tell me that you all look perfect and cleanshaven for your gfs 24/7 (I'm talking about serious relationships here ie living together).


actually the first thing a guy should do when he gets together with a girl is to fart. No pretenses would be left, he's human. You know it's like not watching your signicicant other piss or something, eventually you'll end up seeing it. No need o prolong that moment, be comfortable right away. But don't fart or belch to excess that is uncalled for.


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