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| quote: | Originally posted by DJBARON
welcome to my world. remember, your on thin ice, keep your lies behind your scaled hands and forked tounge!
you speak of the torah???
you enter my world.
you will buried alive if you try to start this argument you have no idea what you begin to say
the Koran as seen by all today that it is false and has no logic. If we today, with science and rationality look at the koran or many other beliefs of today in fact we see many reasons why they cannot be even close to reality. You say the Torah? you try to compare the world of The Creator with what one of His creations fabricated? namely the Koran? The monotheistic idea of One Creator above all as the muslims believe is valid, but as most things, is based on Judaism from the time period of Mohhamed(sp?). Upon the learning of ancient Jewish law that has remained intact for over 3000 years, one may easily see how the beginning of Mohhameds journey was based on going "steps beyond the original people of the book". For instance, the Jews have Yom Kippur, the muslims created Ramadam. On the holiest day of the Jewish Year, Yom Kippur once again we see the Jews have 5 prayer services over the Holiday, and the muslims wanting to be greater than the Jews, create a holier than thou scenario and make everyday like the holiest day for the Jews! Again we see that The jews are obligated by Hashem to give a set amount of charity each year of our total income (10%) while the muslims do the same thing, [forgot what it is called] and infact it is i believe %2. So we see that in matters of 'service' in matters of connecting to The Creator [Allah] which is the main focus of the Muslims as we see with their insane, non-logical baseless 'martyrdom' that these people are willing to blow themselves up for their Creator [Allah]. This is the total opposite of western society. I clearly see the case of total devotion to a Creator, with its polar opposite of total devotion to self, and vanity, present today in western society. Such boundless frivility is abundant in Western Society today, we find a case where The Creator awakens the idea of devotion and connection to something bigger than ourselves, because after all this world today is full of vanity and loss of purpose and goal.
The muslim religion today is a wake up call to many of us. We need to see that there is no way the world will become a melting pot of nothing more than people all focused on getting jobs and making money and watching good tv shows. Muslims today are teaching the world that there is another way, a fanatical screwed up way that is non-sensical and full of a billion holes.
What the hell is the this total BS idea of 71 virgins in heaven? What the hell does 71 virgins mean that it is the 'absolutely greatest thing' in the muslim world today? How much BS do these Muslim powerholders speak constantly to pursuade massive groups of people to do their biddings? We find a society today so screwed up, the ones who are able to objectively see this from an outside perspective take note, and learn something from it!
CYRUSKING -> You come back already your starting something???
WHAT DOES THE TORAH SAY???? TELL ME. I WANT TO KNOW.
THE ONE THING THAT THE MAJOR RELIGIONS OF THE WORLD AGREE ON IS THE THE WORD OF G-D FROM THE HOLY TORAH (translated a few times incorrectly as mentioned in previous posts and verified through internet translators etc -- the bible) The Torah is perfect, and if studied, non-stop revelations in its perfection become more and more abundant.
In reality, science as I mentioned before and got messy in that topic, does nothing more to Judaism and Torah than bring additional proof. Science only verify what Torah, Judaism, Kabbalah and just straight up reality is was and will be.
I think one of the reasons that Matrix failed so bad is that people failed to believe in this whole concept at the end. (no need to ruin the movie!) Today what is it that the average man walking down the street believe in at the end of the day? NOTHING!
sad times ahead, and now I am just shocked at how CyrusKing tries to say anything about the Torah. You open a can of worms son.
QUOTE ME EVERYTHING YOU GOT SON!
By the way, who thinks in reality there is even a 1% chance that the world as we know it even in 500 years won't face the reality that one pyscho will eventually get a nuke and place it somewhere bad and trigger something? LOL Today we see these pyschotic brainwashed muslims blowing themselves up for 71 virgins (if you have 71 virgins for all of eternity, don't they eventually end up being non-virgins after a set time? therefore eventually after 100,000,000 years you are stuck with the same 71 hags and it is pretty stupid. You sit in 'heaven' with the all mighty G-d and enjoy your share of the 'women' for having killed children and soldiers protecting their country? LOL what kind of G-d is that? If the muslim concept of G-d was so powerful, how is it than that people need to sacrifice themselves? Why not Just have the powerful [Allah] Destroy the Jews?
And on the subject, to create multiple issues, in the Original Torah, [Bible] G-d in many places says about how he will never break his covenant with his people. But according to a few deviations from the original Torah, G-d has decided to break his covenant with the original people because G-d made a mistake and they are really not the people, but yes we must do a bunch of rituals (of course reveled to us always from only 1 person, as if G-d can't create a revelation for any more than 1 person to share for an entire nation? - yet judaism is still and will always be the only religion in the world that had A NATIONAL REVELATION at MT. Sinai)
So According to anything except the Torah -- And LOGIC of course -- G-d made a mistake, and is thus not perfect. This is than nothing more than idol worship since The concept of the THE CREATOR means THE creator, lacking nothing and totally perfect.
for those that ask what than of the people who are not jewish, simple obey the 7 laws of Noah, which can be readily found on the internet (there is a large group called the bnei Noach check out any site of theirs for info, and i encourage on all sections research and discussion, unlike other religions we encourage discussion, research and in-depth study, because at the end of the day, if its not logical its not correct!) websites for bnei noach:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bnei-noach/
even : http://www.google.com/search?source...-8&q=bnei+noach
to tie this up, Freedom for everyone to believe whatever they want is great, but today so much death and killing, we must finally stop being wussed out and realize that we are going to suffer if we don't start defining our lives and our purposes for living!
Islam is a disease on this planet, it is creating nothing but fear and death around the world, and that is all that it has always done. Bullshit Liberal pussy views are useless because one day unless you grow some hair on those balls, they will be chopped up by someone who has a psychotic brainwashed religion that tells them to kill themselves and take down as many 'non-believers' as possible.
Iraq is just a canary bird. Israel is just a canary bird. The muslims begin posting on websites the last few days for the muslims to leave from a few major american cities....
peace with the arabs calling themselves 'palestinians'
historically the philisthines were nothign like the modern day arabs claiming right to the land, and under the same logic the arabs in which these leftist dumbshits around the world defend that they need their own country, WHAT ABOUT THE NATIVE AMERICANS? by the same logic they were there first, rightfully and deserve their land back.
America signed treaties though right? so the land is theirs? Well Israel through very legal means came to its own establishment, and showed the world through the hand of G-d in all the battles Israel fought which till this day defy logical understandings. Clearly G-d sends us a message, but that is for a different topic!
----> THERE ARE NO ATHIESTS IN A FOX HOLE. <-----
---->A GOOD DEFENSE IS A STRONG OFFENSE<----
lets assume one day that all this Bullshit talk of peace one day ends up someone, somewhere launching a nucular weapon. 3 minutes until impact, do you think that the reciever will just sit there and let itself get massacred? NO. THE SIMPLE PUSH OF A BUTTON WILL END UP ON AN IMMEDIETE RESPONSE, "YOUR GOING TO KILL US, BUT WE WILL ATLEAST KNOW YOU WILL DIE TOO!!! ARRGHHH" does this seem so far from atleast a possibility?
we need to realize that while this may be a very distant unrealisitic (why?) possibilty IF that day came, you would all stop your 'there is no g-d' BS and get down and PRAY PRAY PRAY.
when your stuck and life is in the balance, I want to see 1 person who does not pray to G-d.
to end off
--------> CYRUSKING, YOU TRY TO EQUATE THE EVIL IN THE KORAN WITH ANYTHING IN THE TORAH?? PLEASE PROCEED. |
what a load of shit, that was really funny
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