Awww, who care's if we're off topic? Our current topic is fun...

Oh, the Bose 901's?

They suck. I have them. My dad got em for free, and they, well, suck. All muddy, and boomy, and there are holes where you can't hear things properly ALL OVER the spectrum.... Oh, and the reason about it not mattering what Bose product you have is that, uh, Bose hasn't made a quality set of speakers yet... not home theater speakers, not headphones, not outdoor speakers, not mini systems, not car speakers (well, they made a clock radio that sounds better than other clock radios....but that's about it), nothing...

Transa, what you just described was NOT a set of Sennheiser HD495's....

I think you got sold a different set of cans...you probably got ripped off...either that or a _*REALLY*_ defective pair.

Here, man, go to Radio Shack and get the 3904 cd player (get that exact model, it has enough juice for em, it should only cost $35), and get the sennheiser 495's from a reliable place (IE, HERE: http://store.yahoo.com/headroom/senhd495.html ) If you wanna hear em right...

Was this EXACT MODEL what you got sold?
http://www.headphone.com/ProductsHe...heiserHD495.asp

Transa: If the earpieces were black and not silver, chances are that you've been switched to the cheaper - and darker-sounding - HD 490 Live! And those cans have rather screechy and muddy highs compared to the REAL HD 495 Silvers.

Yea, transa, it sounds like you got ripped off...A LOT of Sennheiser's line sucks, and it sounds like you got one of their headphones that sucks, rather than one of their good models...

Transa, I think I know the problem you *allegedly* have with the HD 495's. You may be listening to your headphones at volume levels so high -- in fact, WAY louder than Gluegun and me are accustomed to listening at -- that the drivers of the 495's show early signs of "clipping". If you can hear better sound from those el-cheapo Aiwas, then the Senn 495's maximum usable decibel level is significantly lower than those crappy Aiwas. Oh well... A 60-quid pair of headphones with higher loudness capacity will suck badly in overall sound quality at normal volumes!

Yeah glue gun i guess youre right about the 901 speakers being my problem with the headphones,i mean,where the fuck do i plug in the jack? What the fuck does the bose speakers have do do with this topic?I mean are you trying to wind me up,saying they suck cuz i sed the phones suck? I told all you guys the where bad in case you got stupid and bought a set,not to annoy any poor shmuck (like me) who bought a set!

And i dont want fucking anyone being smart commenting on there verdict on the 495s (which where silver,by the way ;-) unless they have tried them on (like me)listened to rock,jazz,pop,hard house,classical,blues,dvd,digital tv(like me) and actually held them to see what a sorry ass,flimsy peice of shite they really are!

Transa, if you said the 495 sucks, chances are that other headphones costing 60 pounds suck EVEN WORSE - all bass and no highs, or weak bass and screechy highs. Unfortunately, you're in a rut here - they (the headphone manufacturers) don't make them like they used to anymore! If you want any better sound than the 495's, you'll have to spend MUCH more money on a single pair of headphones just to do that. And from my experience fully closed headphones (as a group) actually sound WORSE than comparably priced open-air headphones. Listen to classical music through even a GOOD pair of fully-closed DJ headphones, and you'll find out that the DJ headphones will sound artificial - too boomy, with ringing echoing noises that further mar the sound. (In other words, you'll hear nasty sounds that aren't even recorded on your CD's, because closed headphones actually colour the sound significantly, NOT because those nasty echoes were on the recordings.)

BTW, Transa, I was going to recommend you a pair of Grado SR-60 or SR-80 headphones... WAIT! What the f**k's going on with Grado pricing in the UK? Both of those Grados actually cost more (70 to 100 UKP) than the Senn 495's!

Last edited by ShadySlim on Aug-05-2001 at 23:03

Where the fuck DO you plug the 495's into to get good sound? Well, the thing is (near as I can tell), you're thinking of headphones as just kinda a way to hear noise portably, not as a replacement for speakers. The 495's are more "instead of a set of speakers" kind of thing, and, like speakers, they need something to back them up because they aren't that efficient. Why does one buy an amp with a lot of watts for your car? To make the speakers happy! Same thing with these headphones! Why make a set of headphones that not efficient? Because, more often than not, it sounds better on good equipment than more efficient headphones do, that's why!

Okay, here are some options.

Try plugging them into a decent sound card, like the headphone out of a Hercules Game Theatre XP

Try some ANCIENT (preferably 1st generation) portable CD players by Sony.

Try a decent, well made digital audio reciever or cd player, as high quality ones tend to have decent headphone outs (unfortunately, the bose one doesn't)

Try a dedicated headphone amp. The Headroom Airhead would work PERFECTLY in this situation.

Try the $35 USD Radio Shack 3904 CD Player....*IF* you can find it... No, radio shack doesn't make any good models of cd players other than this one...

http://www.radioshack.com/product.a...%5Fid=42%2D6004

Last edited by Gluegun on Aug-05-2001 at 23:58

Um,i dont have em any more,and what u want me to buy audio systems to keep my headphones happy now?

No, I want you to buy the Koss KSC-35's for $15 for classical listening, silly.... :P

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Originally posted by Transa Um,i dont have em any more,and what u want me to buy audio systems to keep my headphones happy now?

You mean you don't have the HD 495's any more?

Nope.i took them back the next day,and rammed them up the fuckin managers ass! lol!

Transa, that's a real pity...yea, the build quality coulda been a little better, the volume handling might have been a little bit higher, maybe they should have been a little easier to drive, but they were STILL A GOOD PAIR OF HEADPHONES!