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Cinder_DCS
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Registered: Aug 2004
Location: San Antonio, Tx, USA

If anything, ask to take the door. Most clubs require a deposit, some dont, depending on management. TABC demands like 10-15%, with that in mind, let the venue take the money. Unless they wanna negotiate a cut. If so, have that shit put in writing and notarized. Some venues can get shiesty(sp).

As for presales, only do pre-sal;es if you Book a regional headliner (ie - Kid icarus, Ron-E) or a major headliner. Many online ticket sales (ticketmaster, star tickets, etc) demand a percentage, thats why its safe to just do a "at the door" thing if its only locals. You can do presales, but a limited amount, if you print them yourself or get them printed, ya know? and have them distributed at various places (record shops, clothing stores, etc)

Now, as for kickback, I myself *i think i can speak for most of DCS, if i dont, kiss my ass :P jk) when i say, just some gas and some food man. Now, if you do make a killing, then maybe implement the rule of 5's and tens (if entry is 5 and you have 100, thats 500 bucks) i would have to explain that one later. But for the most part, kjust some gas and and food man. I am assuming you are a gperson of good character, so with that in mind, i would not ask for a payment unless you do make a nice chunk of change. This is to bring different genres together and to show peeps a good time, so i am down.

as for talent, i recommend these names outside of my crew:

Breaks - Pope G, Kevin Titus
House - Daveed and Lucas Wade, Boogie Monster (not sur ehow much he will ask for)
Trance - i wil leave this to you guys


Dnb - bwahha - Aika, Anaken, SDF3,Zero (these guys ae good peoples, trust)


hardhouse/NRG - Johnny Dove, no one else in SA besides my boys tickles my fancy)

Techno - Tremor, Ruckus, *23 *these men kills it* and uhmm, me thinks thats it

yea, i hope i didnt ramble on too long

OH YEA, if you do put up dnb, please please please make sure there is a good soundsystem for it. with at least a monitor. So many book DnB on shit sound nad its complete disrespect, naw mean?


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Feuhrer
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Registered: May 2004
Location: San Antonio, TX, USA TX TA 40

Sorry I havent posted in a while. Life has been hectic, and I got an XBox w/Halo...so I have been melting my brain by playing games and going to school...ANYWAY! Like many members of my crew have previously stated, gas, food, and maybe a place to shack up, in the case we play late sets, would be nice. I don't much care for kick back, I just want a place to stay and at least 3 Jack and Cokes !!
If you need help in any other way please let me know how I can help.

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email me for phone number if needed.

Thanks for all the support for the crew ladies and gents!


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James Packer



Registered: Oct 2002
Location: HXTA #6

Some good and trustworthy advice there Andy. And I agree on the equipment, Bo, when you talk to the club owner, I guess closer to the date of the event (as they may change their equipment between now and then), it would be a good idea to ask what kind of setup they have and maybe even checking it out. Mainly the monitor(s) in the booth and just to see what mixer they have (for the lesser experienced DJ it helps a lot to know in advance).


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MezzicanTrancEr
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Registered: May 2002
Location: TX TA #30 boo yeah

I think having texas talent is key but in order to draw the people, there has to be a headliner, or two or three....however that would require paying them. In the valley there are plenty of parties with local talent and that's all fine and dandy but it doesn't necessarily draw crowds...people who pay want to know they're going to have a good time - and a way to guarantee that is by having a couple of people whom they know or have heard of...(kid icarus, Ron-E, etc...)

also, mad respect to everyone who is participating but would this really draw people from other parts of texas and would it convince them to make a drive down there...??? I know this would be the FIRST year, but it be nice to introduce this as an annual event with drawing power...assuming this is an annual thing, the first year might only draw people from the valley but fuuuck it! Word of mouth is good!

I know this is more critique than actual ideas on how to pull it off but I'm trying to think of other ways this could work .... I really do think energetik.com should get involved because people in the valley who are into the scene post on the boards a lot and are ALWAYS looking for parties - and YES, they DO love to party =)

anyway, just some thoughts...and i'm willing to help in advertising this event....i know some people aren't partial to this, but advertise this as a texas "rave" and i guarantee more people will come...


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rapfiend03
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: TXTA #50, Peurf SQD MBR

i was talkin to a few business-men in the area and they were saying not to go with tequila frogs because they have screwed people over in the past with rent. so im gonna start at the beginning and try to get the chamber of commerce involved, they always want new tourists to come here. i dunno maybe the convention center parking lot??? ill keep looking.....and octane do u know ferry corsten cuz if you do HOOK UP!!!


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D Dubya
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Over there

Another place to try is Louie's backyard. They have the setup to handle some big name DJs they can handle us. They have a huge outside deck which could be one stage and one huge deck upstairs for a 2nd stage. I have talked to the owner before and I have his business card if you would like to give him a call and talk to him. I think he still owns the place. Let me know.


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rapfiend03
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: TXTA #50, Peurf SQD MBR

yeah can you pm me it cuz when i went the manager said that i needed to talk to the director of operations and that he wasnt going to be in until today(thur) but i have a bunch of classes today so i cant.


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T3nchI
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Austin,Texas :: TXTA #69 ::

Summer 2005? Dang it,that sound cool but I don't know if I wanna go back to my home country then...

But someone,post a cliff notes update on what's the deal now? That'd be nice,thanks.


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rapfiend03
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: TXTA #50, Peurf SQD MBR

basically im planning a concert/party/festival whatever in summer 2005. right now im looking for a venue and trying to solidify the line-up and bill/profits/if i will even come out even. the dates pretty much set all i need is venue and then i can proceed with selling tickets and further preparing for the actual date to arrive.....


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D Dubya
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Over there

Rapfiend: Check your PMs


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rapfiend03
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Registered: Jun 2004
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thanks again man sorry about that.


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James Packer



Registered: Oct 2002
Location: HXTA #6

MezzicanTrancEr made some good points about the importance of drawing people to the party. I have some thoughts of my own on that...

Regarding headliners, I think that many party throwers will tend to rely almost solely on their headliners to draw in people to the event. While this is arguably more effective than just having locals play at the event, I believe an event that showcases local talent (ideologically) has far greater potential for future parties of the same flavour. I'll tell you why... having "headliners" is the normal thing to do, people will go to parties here and there, thrown by a plethora of different organisers, and they'll go to see 'Ron-E' or 'Kid Icarus' etc, and when the party is over they'll have fond memories if it went well, but the only loyalty they are likely to gain is to the headlining DJs, as opposed to the party organisers, any crews involved, and the local acts who just aren't on an even playing field with whoever is showcased as a 'headliner'.

Call me idealistic, but Bo, I see this event you are organising as having great potential if we work hard to make it something different from the norm. I have seen this done at parties before in Australia and it works on several levels. Instead of having 'headliners' and then the local underdogs, have every act or crew that is performing (that includes crews dedicated to decor, crews dedicated to lighting, and of course crews dedicated to music) as knights at a round table if you will. If it is organised and promoted sufficiently (and yes this will be harder than if there were recognised headliners playing), I envision that the people attending - provided we put on a solid, well organised, entertaining show and that they thus have a great time - will have a new found loyalty in the party itself (allowing for subsequent parties of the same theme), and most importantly since people are being given a neutral atmosphere where no one is 'headlining', local acts/crews have a MUCH better chance to be heard/seen on an equal playing field, resulting in a more intimate event.

All of what I've just said reminds me of this one promotor back in Melbourne who runs the 'Smile Police' crew. Every year he throws a party called NRG (New Rave Generation), this year was NRG 7. As a promotor, his number one priority is local up-and-coming talent, and getting them out into the world where they can perform to a loving crowd and grow as DJs. Smile Police has a HUGE following in Melbourne because of the respect that this ideology has drawn from people. There is never anyone to steal the show at Smile Police events, just a plethora of good solid local talent. Now obviously there are going to be experienced locals who have had more exposure due to their experience than newcomers, but my point is that everyone is still on a relatively even playing field because of the way the parties are promoted. One example of a DJ who was nurtured by Garth (head promotor and founder of Smile Police) is Steve Strangis, who is huge all over Australia now, and has recently opened for AvB in front of 7500 people at Godskitchen in Melbourne. When asked why Steve wasn't on the lineup for the next NRG party, Garth replied by saying his goal is to nurture new local talent, and he had done that with Steve, to the point that Steve now has no trouble getting booked all over the country. That gives you some idea as to what kind of person Garth is, and he has the respect of many.

Now obviously the situation will be different everywhere you go in the world, and the valley isn't as populated as Melbourne (~3.5 million), but I believe that to a certain extent, these ideas can be implemented successfully on a smaller scale. Thing is, creating this kind of loyalty is hard when the population of Texas is so scattered. One of the reasons it works in Melbourne is that it has a concentrated population, unlike our area where we are spread between San Antonio, Austin, Dallas, Houston, the Valley, etc. Still, I believe this kind of party can work well, if organised and promoted well.

The key is promotion. Having promotors who volunteer, and then holding several meetings so that ideas can be exchanged and everyone knows what needs to be done. Incentive to promote is not only free entry to the events and industry price tickets to sell to friends, but a chance to network with others and to help the electronic music scene prosper. The more promotors the better, you can never have too many, because word of mouth is a very strong and efficient tool of promotion, and everyone is interconnected with other people in a unique way.

I'm interested to hear your thoughts, everyone.


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