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Feuhrer
tranceaddict

Registered: May 2004
Location: San Antonio, TX, USA TX TA 40
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Sorry I havent posted in a while. Life has been hectic, and I got an XBox w/Halo...so I have been melting my brain by playing games and going to school...ANYWAY! Like many members of my crew have previously stated, gas, food, and maybe a place to shack up, in the case we play late sets, would be nice. I don't much care for kick back, I just want a place to stay and at least 3 Jack and Cokes !!
If you need help in any other way please let me know how I can help.
EMAIL: [email protected]
YIM: ToolsGod01
AIM: Feuhrer2001
email me for phone number if needed.
Thanks for all the support for the crew ladies and gents!
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We all come to a point where life means something profound, but it means more when you can't explain it!
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Sep-09-2004 02:50
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MezzicanTrancEr
Senior tranceaddict

Registered: May 2002
Location: TX TA #30 boo yeah
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I think having texas talent is key but in order to draw the people, there has to be a headliner, or two or three....however that would require paying them. In the valley there are plenty of parties with local talent and that's all fine and dandy but it doesn't necessarily draw crowds...people who pay want to know they're going to have a good time - and a way to guarantee that is by having a couple of people whom they know or have heard of...(kid icarus, Ron-E, etc...)
also, mad respect to everyone who is participating but would this really draw people from other parts of texas and would it convince them to make a drive down there...??? I know this would be the FIRST year, but it be nice to introduce this as an annual event with drawing power...assuming this is an annual thing, the first year might only draw people from the valley but fuuuck it! Word of mouth is good!
I know this is more critique than actual ideas on how to pull it off but I'm trying to think of other ways this could work .... I really do think energetik.com should get involved because people in the valley who are into the scene post on the boards a lot and are ALWAYS looking for parties - and YES, they DO love to party =)
anyway, just some thoughts...and i'm willing to help in advertising this event....i know some people aren't partial to this, but advertise this as a texas "rave" and i guarantee more people will come...
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Sep-09-2004 05:22
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Rememberence_
James Packer

Registered: Oct 2002
Location: HXTA #6
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MezzicanTrancEr made some good points about the importance of drawing people to the party. I have some thoughts of my own on that...
Regarding headliners, I think that many party throwers will tend to rely almost solely on their headliners to draw in people to the event. While this is arguably more effective than just having locals play at the event, I believe an event that showcases local talent (ideologically) has far greater potential for future parties of the same flavour. I'll tell you why... having "headliners" is the normal thing to do, people will go to parties here and there, thrown by a plethora of different organisers, and they'll go to see 'Ron-E' or 'Kid Icarus' etc, and when the party is over they'll have fond memories if it went well, but the only loyalty they are likely to gain is to the headlining DJs, as opposed to the party organisers, any crews involved, and the local acts who just aren't on an even playing field with whoever is showcased as a 'headliner'.
Call me idealistic, but Bo, I see this event you are organising as having great potential if we work hard to make it something different from the norm. I have seen this done at parties before in Australia and it works on several levels. Instead of having 'headliners' and then the local underdogs, have every act or crew that is performing (that includes crews dedicated to decor, crews dedicated to lighting, and of course crews dedicated to music) as knights at a round table if you will. If it is organised and promoted sufficiently (and yes this will be harder than if there were recognised headliners playing), I envision that the people attending - provided we put on a solid, well organised, entertaining show and that they thus have a great time - will have a new found loyalty in the party itself (allowing for subsequent parties of the same theme), and most importantly since people are being given a neutral atmosphere where no one is 'headlining', local acts/crews have a MUCH better chance to be heard/seen on an equal playing field, resulting in a more intimate event.
All of what I've just said reminds me of this one promotor back in Melbourne who runs the 'Smile Police' crew. Every year he throws a party called NRG (New Rave Generation), this year was NRG 7. As a promotor, his number one priority is local up-and-coming talent, and getting them out into the world where they can perform to a loving crowd and grow as DJs. Smile Police has a HUGE following in Melbourne because of the respect that this ideology has drawn from people. There is never anyone to steal the show at Smile Police events, just a plethora of good solid local talent. Now obviously there are going to be experienced locals who have had more exposure due to their experience than newcomers, but my point is that everyone is still on a relatively even playing field because of the way the parties are promoted. One example of a DJ who was nurtured by Garth (head promotor and founder of Smile Police) is Steve Strangis, who is huge all over Australia now, and has recently opened for AvB in front of 7500 people at Godskitchen in Melbourne. When asked why Steve wasn't on the lineup for the next NRG party, Garth replied by saying his goal is to nurture new local talent, and he had done that with Steve, to the point that Steve now has no trouble getting booked all over the country. That gives you some idea as to what kind of person Garth is, and he has the respect of many.
Now obviously the situation will be different everywhere you go in the world, and the valley isn't as populated as Melbourne (~3.5 million), but I believe that to a certain extent, these ideas can be implemented successfully on a smaller scale. Thing is, creating this kind of loyalty is hard when the population of Texas is so scattered. One of the reasons it works in Melbourne is that it has a concentrated population, unlike our area where we are spread between San Antonio, Austin, Dallas, Houston, the Valley, etc. Still, I believe this kind of party can work well, if organised and promoted well.
The key is promotion. Having promotors who volunteer, and then holding several meetings so that ideas can be exchanged and everyone knows what needs to be done. Incentive to promote is not only free entry to the events and industry price tickets to sell to friends, but a chance to network with others and to help the electronic music scene prosper. The more promotors the better, you can never have too many, because word of mouth is a very strong and efficient tool of promotion, and everyone is interconnected with other people in a unique way.
I'm interested to hear your thoughts, everyone.
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"I played 12.30 til close at 3am at the club (Antro), following on from an Australian dj,
which seemed unusual in deepest Texas." - Judge Jules
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Sep-10-2004 00:48
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